But the word "Reliably" is on the description. So it can "reliably" carry 10mbps but we all know you can push it farther, as in running gigabit over Cat5. All depends on your environment.
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 If I read the specs correctly, it only does 10Mbps over cat3. To get the higher speeds you need cat 5 or better. -RickG On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM, jp <j...@saucer.midcoast.com> wrote: > http://www.versatek.com/products/vxveb160r2.htm > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06:37PM -0500, RickG wrote: > > Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps. > > My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do > 100Mbps+ > > on cat 3? Not according to this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If such > an > > animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked. > > We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose a > short > > cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my > > experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had to > lock > > down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all but > I've > > been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out EMF > > which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission retries. The > > speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating - > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable > > Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting > > things. > > -RickG > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West < > robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > > > > > Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and receive. > Can > > > easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much > > > effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come > from > > > the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made. > Most > > > phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run. Who knows > > > where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they > stick > > > with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was the > best > > > option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its > face. > > > > > > There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in > the > > > home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. That > was > > > in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with them. > I > > > never saw them used though. > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > > > > > > That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except > references > > > to the standard being 10Mbps: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable > > > Any examples? > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <ke...@safelink.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old > barbwire! > > > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy > > > > > <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the > house. > > > > >> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the > > > same > > > > >> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone > line? > > > > >> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal > wiring > > > is > > > > >> virtually unused. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > >> Forbes > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! 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