Your average Wi-Fi AP comes with a 3dBi antenna or even a unity gain
antenna... every 3-dB increase is double the power...

The trick though isn't that its pointing a 10dBi antenna pattern at a
client, its that its taking it one step further and pointing that at the
best possible path to the client, which in an indoor environment is rarely
the most direct path.

I could pull out a few graphs that Ruckus has done to illustrate the
point... but the Toms Hardware article is the most unbiased review of the
gear out there

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question

Seems hard to believe that if I took a 10dbi antenna which isn't all that
much gain and put it on my AP and pointed it at my client I'd see that much
of a gain.

Greg

On Nov 22, 2009, at 5:43 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote:

> There are over 4,000 antenna patterns, with the relative gain of the best
> ones up to 10dBi... the magic is though that the AP also uses the patterns
> they transmit on to receive on... so the gain is bi-directional instead of
> blasting the signal out but not having any mechanism in place for the
client
> to be heard.  The AP can also selectively put noise in up to a -15dBi
> null... which can be helpful.
> 
> I would be curious in what indoor environment there isn't multi-path :-)
> 
> Anyways, if you have doubts... Tom's Hardware (which is as unbiased as it
> gets) did some testing against Cisco and Aruba.  If you want to see the
> power of beamforming, I'd encourage you to read this article all the way
> through.  It gives a very detailed explanation of the magic behind Ruckus.
> 
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/beamforming-wifi-ruckus,2390.html
> 
> 
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question
> 
> Does Ruckus state their antenna gain anywhere? If their "beam forming"
gain
> isn't all that much higher than the competition's omni gain then the
> performance couldn't be all that much better unless there's noise or multi
> path issues.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Nov 22, 2009, at 5:13 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote:
> 
>> Depends on your definition of economical :-)
>> 
>> Ruckus has meshing built in to all of their AP's... plus with the antenna
>> array built into these babies you can usually get by with deploying 1/2
as
>> many AP's... so it can end up costing less than a roll your own Mikrotik
>> system
>> 
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:01 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question
>> 
>> I would prefer copper to link indoor APs. If that won't work due to
either
>> technical issues or the customer just plain doesn't want holes drilled,
is
>> WDS pretty much the only financially viable alternative that properly
>> bridges the network?  Could do a boat-load of PtP links, but that'd be
>> silly.
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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