we have some vivato panels and go networks aps out there. to see beamforming in action is pretty cool.
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2009, at 5:19 PM, "3-dB Networks" <[email protected]> wrote: > The gear isn't designed to be deployed in a house in suburbia (well > with the > exception of media flex)... it competes in the enterprise market > with Cisco, > Aruba, Meraki, Aerohive, Symbol, etc. etc. etc. Its designed to be > deployed > in schools, in hospitals, in hotels, in the SMB... where there is no > IT > staff to learn Mikrotik and where performance is critical. There is > a whole > laundry list of features Ruckus has that are patented... beamforming > is just > the cool one for the geeks. > > Read up on the 802.11n protocol... and you will see beamforming is > part of > it. Ruckus holds a lot of patents on their antenna technology... > which > complicates other vendors from doing it. Furthermore, it's all > about how a > company looks at Wi-Fi. Almost every other companies AP is an AP is > an AP > with very similar characteristics, because the engineers focus on the > software or feature sets and let the chipset manufacturers do all of > the > radio design. Ruckus realizes to truly make Wi-Fi better you have > to make > the antenna array, the radio, all better too. > > I was skeptical of the product once too... then I saw what it could > do in > person and was amazed. I've now had the joy of showing off the > product to > plenty of IT staff, people that get Wi-Fi, etc and see their jaws > drop when > they see what this product can actually do. > > In the Toms Hardware test... the Aruba gear was in there to provide > the > baseline for everyone else's Wi-Fi. The results speak for themselves. > > To each their own, for sure :-) > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:09 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question > > Does a sector work any better when there's no interference or when > there's > just a few clients? In a highly urban area like an apartment > building that's > flooded with microwave ovens, cordless phones etc sure. But what > about a > house in suburbia where there's no real interference? > > I guess that Ruckus is the only one doing it makes me question the > urgency. > Though I have to admit that at one time I was considering deploying > their > products. I like the concept and I'd love to try them. But I fell > prey to > the allure of MT and UBNT and once I started deploying that I wanted > to stay > compatible. I think now my dream machine would be any great hardware > (at a > good price) that could run RouterOS. I would love to see UBNT and MT > get > together on some gear. > > To each is own. > > Greg > > On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> No, because it does beamforming. I believe Dan said it can use 4000 >> different antenna patterns. >> >> What's better performing, an omni with a 30 dB radio or say an >> array of 6 >> sectors? What about 4000 sectors? >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:57 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question >> >>> Yeah, I saw that, many times. Are there any other reviews? I >>> suspect the >>> good performance over and above a regular high quality AP is that >>> it's >>> dual band mesh. The Ruckus gear is dual band mesh right? I get a >>> lot of >>> hits when I Google "ruckus dual band mesh mediaflex" but the >>> Ruckus site >>> isn't totally clear. Could a little more directional gain really >>> make > that >>> much difference? I suspect head to head with other dual band mesh >>> gear > the >>> Ruckus gear would prove to be similar in performance. It needs to >>> be an >>> apples to apples comparison. >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/beamforming-wifi-ruckus,2390.html >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:26 PM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question >>>> >>>>> Does Ruckus state their antenna gain anywhere? If their "beam >>>>> forming" >>>>> gain isn't all that much higher than the competition's omni gain >>>>> then >>>>> the >>>>> performance couldn't be all that much better unless there's >>>>> noise or >>>>> multi >>>>> path issues. >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 5:13 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Depends on your definition of economical :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Ruckus has meshing built in to all of their AP's... plus with the >>>>>> antenna >>>>>> array built into these babies you can usually get by with >>>>>> deploying > 1/2 >>>>>> as >>>>>> many AP's... so it can end up costing less than a roll your own >>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>> system >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel White >>>>>> 3-dB Networks >>>>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >>>>>> [email protected]] > On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:01 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question >>>>>> >>>>>> I would prefer copper to link indoor APs. 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