430 cpe is the same as current Canopy SM's

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Dec 29, 2009, at 9:00 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> I read the Moto 802.16e MIMO spec.  I found it interesting that  
> receive
> sensitivy for QAM64 was -89.  That is awesome, compared to wifi OFDM  
> of
> about -68.
> Doesn't help with the noise floor SNR requirements though. I also  
> found it
> insightful that the 802.16e model AUTO shifted from MIMO A to B.   
> Its uses
> Dual Pol methodology.
> (A = same data send on each pol for higher receive  signal and NLOS
> penetration, B = different data sent on each pol for double  
> throughput, but
> no link budget improvement)
>
> On the 430 5.8Ghz OFDM line, I had heard that it was going to be  
> limited to
> integrated antenna CPE and Verticle Pol only. Is that true? Or will  
> it have
> an external antenna CPE option?
> I know a Beehive can be put on the 10dbi ant to make it higher, but  
> it would
> still be discouraging if product prevented from using high end  
> parabolic
> dishes.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "3-dB Networks" <[email protected]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
>
>
>> Everytime I see that pricing it makes me cringe... since I've seen  
>> Moto
>> give
>> pricing way before a product is actually set to release and its way  
>> off
>> the
>> mark.  I hope it's right for Moto sake :-)
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> [email protected]
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- 
>> [email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
>>
>> Soon as in q1 or q2
>>
>> IIRC
>> $350~ SM
>> $3500~ AP
>>
>> Specs are in the website under 320 series
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:50 PM, "Tom DeReggi"  
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> moto
>>>
>>> Did you mean they are comming out with soon? or did you really mean
>>> they are
>>> talking about comming out with?
>>>
>>> In WISP time, there is a big difference.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it would be cool if that was comming in the near future at
>>> current
>>> Canopy level price points.
>>> But that is an if.
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
>>>
>>>
>>>> Less?
>>>>
>>>> Moto is comming out with a 16e system with 4.5 bits per hz using  
>>>> mimo
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:45 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why is your basic criteria .16e with MIMO (or .16e at all)?
>>>>>
>>>>> All .16e gets you in 3.65 GHz is much more (30% more) latency,  
>>>>> less
>>>>> throughput per MHz, higher overhead and more cost. And you won't  
>>>>> get
>>>>> any
>>>>> hope for interoperability, indoor modems, USB dongles or PC cards,
>>>>> since
>>>>> those are only applicable to licensed bands.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick Leary
>>>>> Aperto Networks
>>>>> 813.426.4230 mobile
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- 
>>>>> [email protected]]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Baird
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:22 AM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Wimax gear
>>>>>
>>>>> We are looking for some more wimax gear to test for the 3.65 band,
>>>>> our
>>>>> basic criteria would be 802.16e/mimo, we've tested Alvarion gear
>>>>> already. We are looking for something that will work in an urban
>>>>> environment with self install radios, can deliver voice and if
>>>>> possible
>>>>> with PPP/NAT/DHCP in the radio rather then as an external gateway
>>>>> device. If any dealers out there would like to chime in or hit me
>>>>> off
>>>>> list I would appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>
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