Well if some 7200.11 drives are bad I don't have the time to pick and choose between revs and serial numbers.
Seagate screwed me I'm finding a different company that makes good a product. Would you buy a Toyota Camry if some of them were not built to spec? On 4/20/10, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: > In all fairness.... > > It not appropriate to single out a HDD by a broad part number like 7200.11. > That part number alone would likely have many revs which would slightly > differ, and each firmware would could have significantly different > compatibility issues. > > The Seagate Barracuda has always been a respected and high quality drive > brand. But just like any product can have a bad batch or idiosyncracies in > this Complex PC world. > Specifically note that 7200.11 series support NCQ, a feature that improves > both performance and drive life, rarely found in a desktop HDD. Yes, the > 7200.11 is specifiied as a "DESKTOP Class" drive NOT a "SERVER Class" RAID > drive, so it should used under such expections and applications. Although > it is specified for Desktop RAID. > > However, for drives that fail in a raid, I rarely blaim HDDs themselves for > the failure of raid. I'd argue that Desktop raid solutions are pretty much > Crap, and the ones based on PRomise chipsets really cant be relied on for > anything important. I cant count how many raid solutions we've been exposed > to that failed killing more than 1 drive in the raid at once, resulting in > data loss. (and Not necessarilly with Seagate drives, we also use WD > heavilly). For this reason, we almost always now will chose basic mirroring > over complex Raid, for all applications, expect extreme cases that really > need a large amount of capacity, and for those applications we often mirror > the raid sets. They just dont make quality Raid controllers like they used > to do in the SCSI days. > > We have been very successful with Seagate Barracudas in our mirrored > systems. We usually will use Linux of Microsoft native Software mirroring, > not hardware based. > > So if you had a bad batch of Seagate, I dont doubt that, but we should not > condemn the product line in general, and if anything, we shoudl praise > Seagate for having a RMA department that is so easy to work with and willing > to replace drives with no questions asked. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives > > > Friends dont let friends use Seagates :) > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> > wrote: >> FYI. >> >> >> >> If anyone is using Seagate 7200.11 SATA hard drives (500gb to the >> terabyte) >> and have been experiencing random blue screens or lockups, they have been >> having firmware problems for awhile on these drives and you should backup >> your data and send them back to Seagate via RMA. The 7200.11 can be >> usually found on the top left hand corner. >> >> >> >> I've found that even in a raid, they can fail pretty much at the same time >> and thus thwarting the protection of the raid. >> >> >> >> I've talked to one other WISPA member who had this problem (As well as my >> own experience with them - 5 sent back already on my own) and thought >> others may want to look to see what's in their servers. They were flashed >> with the wrong firmware and experience a countdown of sorts then >> eventually >> fail. Again, if in a raid, they will essentially fail at the same time if >> installed at the same time. >> >> >> >> I have went as far as RMAing one that showed no issues and they replaced >> that one as well with no questions. >> >> >> >> Robert West >> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc. >> >> 740-335-7020 >> >> >> >> Logo5 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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