In all fairness....

It not appropriate to single out a HDD by a broad part number like 7200.11. 
That part number alone would likely have many revs which would slightly 
differ, and each firmware would could have significantly different 
compatibility issues.

The Seagate Barracuda has always been a respected and high quality drive 
brand. But just like any product can have a bad batch or idiosyncracies in 
this Complex PC world.
Specifically note that 7200.11 series support NCQ, a feature that improves 
both performance and drive life, rarely found in a desktop HDD. Yes, the 
7200.11 is specifiied as a "DESKTOP Class" drive NOT a "SERVER Class"  RAID 
drive, so it should used under such expections and applications.  Although 
it is specified for Desktop RAID.

However, for drives that fail in a raid, I rarely blaim HDDs themselves for 
the failure of raid. I'd argue that Desktop raid solutions are pretty much 
Crap, and the ones based on PRomise chipsets really cant be relied on for 
anything important. I cant count how many raid solutions we've been exposed 
to that failed killing more than 1 drive in the raid at once, resulting in 
data loss. (and Not necessarilly with Seagate drives, we also use WD 
heavilly). For this reason, we almost always now will chose basic mirroring 
over complex Raid, for all applications, expect extreme cases that really 
need a large amount of capacity, and for those applications we often mirror 
the raid sets. They just dont make quality Raid controllers like they used 
to do in the SCSI days.

We have been very successful with Seagate Barracudas in our mirrored 
systems. We usually will use Linux of Microsoft native Software mirroring, 
not hardware based.

So if you had a bad batch of Seagate, I dont doubt that, but we should not 
condemn the product line in general, and if anything, we shoudl praise 
Seagate for having a RMA department that is so easy to work with and willing 
to replace drives with no questions asked.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives


Friends dont let friends use Seagates :)

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> 
wrote:
> FYI.
>
>
>
> If anyone is using Seagate 7200.11 SATA hard drives (500gb to the 
> terabyte)
> and have been experiencing random blue screens or lockups, they have been
> having firmware problems for awhile on these drives and you should backup
> your data and send them back to Seagate via RMA. The 7200.11 can be
> usually found on the top left hand corner.
>
>
>
> I've found that even in a raid, they can fail pretty much at the same time
> and thus thwarting the protection of the raid.
>
>
>
> I've talked to one other WISPA member who had this problem (As well as my
> own experience with them - 5 sent back already on my own) and thought
> others may want to look to see what's in their servers. They were flashed
> with the wrong firmware and experience a countdown of sorts then 
> eventually
> fail. Again, if in a raid, they will essentially fail at the same time if
> installed at the same time.
>
>
>
> I have went as far as RMAing one that showed no issues and they replaced
> that one as well with no questions.
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
>
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