It's like Motorola with Canopy. Bureaucracy creates a lot of overhead :/ On 6/25/10, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I think it's more alarming that Interop has a /8. Something that's only > open 4 times a year needs 16 million IPs? > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 6/25/2010 5:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> I think you mean Ford? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IP_address_blocks >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts.” >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Travis Johnson<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our >>> first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a >>> /18 without too much trouble. >>> >>> A year ago, we started the process to get another block. This took over >>> a month, with over 30 emails back and forth, and even then they would >>> only allocate us a /20 because that's all we would need for the next 2 >>> years. When I asked about year 3 and on, they said "re-apply for more >>> space then". >>> >>> Meanwhile, places like Mercedes have a /8 and they are using less than >>> 1% of it. :( >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> >>> Bradley D. Thornton wrote: >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: RIPEMD160 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/25/2010 2:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting >>>>> more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are >>>>> multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Getting new blocks from you upstream should take them about 10 minutes. >>>> >>>> I recommend you go straight to ARIN and do the justification for a /16. >>>> >>>> um... Just think about your network as it will be in ten years, at your >>>> current rate of expansion, and then project your need ahead two months >>>> instead of 10 years, and you'll be fine. >>>> >>>> I got all my /24 and /16 NET-BLKs from nic.ddn.mil under direct >>>> assignment a couple of decades ago, but they were requiring >>>> justifications even when it was internic.net, before ARIN. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Anyway, we haven't run out yet, I'm just trying to get an idea and >>>>> plan for what we will do if we run out on a single AP or tower >>>>> location. I've never encountered anything like that, and have not >>>>> found anything in my limited searching that is similar enough to give >>>>> me an idea. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If you're getting your IPs from ARIN and are running out, clearly you >>>>>> can justify another block. Is there not enough time for this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>>> continue that counts.” >>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Alan Bryant >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> We are in the process of redesigning our entire network from our >>>>>>> upstream all the way to the customer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently everything is bridged and on the same physical network. >>>>>>> Obviously we are wanting to change this for many reasons. Subnetting >>>>>>> it out on the private side isn't a problem, but the public side is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are leaning towards having routeros based routers at every tower >>>>>>> and subnetting all the way to the AP's. We don't have enough public >>>>>>> IP's to allow enough room for much growth. My main question is, what >>>>>>> is the best course of action once you run out of IP's at an AP or >>>>>>> tower? What is the most efficient way of bringing more IP's in >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> renumbering everything? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I appreciate any and all responses on or off list. Let me know if >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> information is needed to give better answers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> - -- >>>> Bradley D. 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