I think you mean Ford?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IP_address_blocks

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On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our
> first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a
> /18 without too much trouble.
>
> A year ago, we started the process to get another block. This took over
> a month, with over 30 emails back and forth, and even then they would
> only allocate us a /20 because that's all we would need for the next 2
> years. When I asked about year 3 and on, they said "re-apply for more
> space then".
>
> Meanwhile, places like Mercedes have a /8 and they are using less than
> 1% of it. :(
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
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>> On 6/25/2010 2:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote:
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>>> We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting
>>> more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are
>>> multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said.
>>>
>>
>> Getting new blocks from you upstream should take them about 10 minutes.
>>
>> I recommend you go straight to ARIN and do the justification for a /16.
>>
>> um... Just think about your network as it will be in ten years, at your
>> current rate of expansion, and then project your need ahead two months
>> instead of 10 years, and you'll be fine.
>>
>> I got all my /24 and /16 NET-BLKs from nic.ddn.mil under direct
>> assignment a couple of decades ago, but they were requiring
>> justifications even when it was internic.net, before ARIN.
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, we haven't run out yet, I'm just trying to get an idea and
>>> plan for what we will do if we run out on a single AP or tower
>>> location. I've never encountered anything like that, and have not
>>> found anything in my limited searching that is similar enough to give
>>> me an idea.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you're getting your IPs from ARIN and are running out, clearly you
>>>> can justify another block.  Is there not enough time for this?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>> continue that counts.”
>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Alan Bryant
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are in the process of redesigning our entire network from our
>>>>> upstream all the way to the customer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently everything is bridged and on the same physical network.
>>>>> Obviously we are wanting to change this for many reasons. Subnetting
>>>>> it out on the private side isn't a problem, but the public side is.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are leaning towards having routeros based routers at every tower
>>>>> and subnetting all the way to the AP's. We don't have enough public
>>>>> IP's to allow enough room for much growth. My main question is, what
>>>>> is the best course of action once you run out of IP's at an AP or
>>>>> tower? What is the most efficient way of bringing more IP's in without
>>>>> renumbering everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate any and all responses on or off list. Let me know if more
>>>>> information is needed to give better answers.
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