-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 r...@condor:~# whois 53.0.0.0
OrgName: cap debis ccs OrgID: CDC-6 Address: RRZ-S/K Address: c/o Mercedes Benz AG Address: Postfach 6002 02 Address: Mercedestr. 136 Address: 7000 Stuttgart 60 City: StateProv: PostalCode: Country: DE NetRange: 53.0.0.0 - 53.255.255.255 CIDR: 53.0.0.0/8 NetName: DB-NET2 NetHandle: NET-53-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Direct Assignment NameServer: NS1.SNS-FELB.DEBIS.COM NameServer: NS2.SNS-UT.DEBIS.COM Comment: RegDate: 1992-03-17 Updated: 1993-10-18 RTechHandle: KW62-ARIN RTechName: Weiler, Klaus RTechPhone: 49-711-1753493 RTechEmail: [email protected] # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-06-24 20:00 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html # # Attention! Changes are coming to ARIN's Whois service on June 26. # See https://www.arin.net/features/whois for details on the improvements. On 6/25/2010 3:28 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Dang... I thought I was losing my mind, because your list didn't include > MB. However, after doing a search I found this... > > http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/02/13/where-did-all-the-ip-numbers-go-the-us-department-of-defense-has-them/ > > Mercedes actually goes by "Cap debis css". > > I knew MB had a /8, because I remember an article in Time magazine a > while ago that they were going to assign a static IP address to every > single car they produced. Not sure if that ever happened, but that was > their plan 5 years ago. > > Travis > Microserv > > > Josh Luthman wrote: >> I think you mean Ford? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IP_address_blocks >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts.” >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our >>> first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a >>> /18 without too much trouble. >>> >>> A year ago, we started the process to get another block. This took over >>> a month, with over 30 emails back and forth, and even then they would >>> only allocate us a /20 because that's all we would need for the next 2 >>> years. When I asked about year 3 and on, they said "re-apply for more >>> space then". >>> >>> Meanwhile, places like Mercedes have a /8 and they are using less than >>> 1% of it. :( >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> >>> Bradley D. Thornton wrote: >>> > > > On 6/25/2010 2:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote: > > >>>>>> We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting >>>>>> more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are >>>>>> multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said. >>>>>> >>>>>> > Getting new blocks from you upstream should take them about 10 minutes. > > I recommend you go straight to ARIN and do the justification for a /16. > > um... Just think about your network as it will be in ten years, at your > current rate of expansion, and then project your need ahead two months > instead of 10 years, and you'll be fine. > > I got all my /24 and /16 NET-BLKs from nic.ddn.mil under direct > assignment a couple of decades ago, but they were requiring > justifications even when it was internic.net, before ARIN. > > > >>>>>> Anyway, we haven't run out yet, I'm just trying to get an idea and >>>>>> plan for what we will do if we run out on a single AP or tower >>>>>> location. I've never encountered anything like that, and have not >>>>>> found anything in my limited searching that is similar enough to give >>>>>> me an idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're getting your IPs from ARIN and are running out, clearly you >>>>>>> can justify another block. Is there not enough time for this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>>>> continue that counts. >>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Alan Bryant >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are in the process of redesigning our entire network from our >>>>>>>> upstream all the way to the customer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Currently everything is bridged and on the same physical network. >>>>>>>> Obviously we are wanting to change this for many reasons. Subnetting >>>>>>>> it out on the private side isn't a problem, but the public side is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are leaning towards having routeros based routers at every tower >>>>>>>> and subnetting all the way to the AP's. We don't have enough public >>>>>>>> IP's to allow enough room for much growth. My main question is, what >>>>>>>> is the best course of action once you run out of IP's at an AP or >>>>>>>> tower? What is the most efficient way of bringing more IP's in without >>>>>>>> renumbering everything? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I appreciate any and all responses on or off list. Let me know if more >>>>>>>> information is needed to give better answers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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