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On 6/25/2010 2:43 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our > first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a > /18 without too much trouble. > > A year ago, we started the process to get another block. This took over > a month, with over 30 emails back and forth, and even then they would > only allocate us a /20 because that's all we would need for the next 2 > years. When I asked about year 3 and on, they said "re-apply for more > space then". Wow it's getting really tough then. Alan also said he wasn't multi-homed (don't let that get out). Perhaps one of the best things he can do is pick up a separate provider and aquire adequate IP space from them, slowly migrating everything over. But from his email, I really couldn't tell if he was bringing pubic IPs all the way to the CPEs or not. > > Meanwhile, places like Mercedes have a /8 and they are using less than > 1% of it. :( Makes me wanna vom. And the worst part is, most of these biggies were handed out to megacorps before they knew what the Internet was, or even had a use for those blocks. > > Travis > Microserv > > > Bradley D. Thornton wrote: > > > On 6/25/2010 2:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote: > >>>> We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting >>>> more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are >>>> multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said. >>>> > > Getting new blocks from you upstream should take them about 10 minutes. > > I recommend you go straight to ARIN and do the justification for a /16. > > um... Just think about your network as it will be in ten years, at your > current rate of expansion, and then project your need ahead two months > instead of 10 years, and you'll be fine. > > I got all my /24 and /16 NET-BLKs from nic.ddn.mil under direct > assignment a couple of decades ago, but they were requiring > justifications even when it was internic.net, before ARIN. > > >>>> Anyway, we haven't run out yet, I'm just trying to get an idea and >>>> plan for what we will do if we run out on a single AP or tower >>>> location. I've never encountered anything like that, and have not >>>> found anything in my limited searching that is similar enough to give >>>> me an idea. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you're getting your IPs from ARIN and are running out, clearly you >>>>> can justify another block. Is there not enough time for this? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>> continue that counts. >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Alan Bryant >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We are in the process of redesigning our entire network from our >>>>>> upstream all the way to the customer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently everything is bridged and on the same physical network. >>>>>> Obviously we are wanting to change this for many reasons. Subnetting >>>>>> it out on the private side isn't a problem, but the public side is. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are leaning towards having routeros based routers at every tower >>>>>> and subnetting all the way to the AP's. We don't have enough public >>>>>> IP's to allow enough room for much growth. My main question is, what >>>>>> is the best course of action once you run out of IP's at an AP or >>>>>> tower? What is the most efficient way of bringing more IP's in without >>>>>> renumbering everything? >>>>>> >>>>>> I appreciate any and all responses on or off list. Let me know if more >>>>>> information is needed to give better answers. >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> > >> >> - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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