It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a /18 without too much trouble.
A year ago, we started the process to get another block. This took over a month, with over 30 emails back and forth, and even then they would only allocate us a /20 because that's all we would need for the next 2 years. When I asked about year 3 and on, they said "re-apply for more space then". Meanwhile, places like Mercedes have a /8 and they are using less than 1% of it. :( Travis Microserv Bradley D. Thornton wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > On 6/25/2010 2:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote: > >> We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting >> more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are >> multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said. >> > > Getting new blocks from you upstream should take them about 10 minutes. > > I recommend you go straight to ARIN and do the justification for a /16. > > um... Just think about your network as it will be in ten years, at your > current rate of expansion, and then project your need ahead two months > instead of 10 years, and you'll be fine. > > I got all my /24 and /16 NET-BLKs from nic.ddn.mil under direct > assignment a couple of decades ago, but they were requiring > justifications even when it was internic.net, before ARIN. > > >> Anyway, we haven't run out yet, I'm just trying to get an idea and >> plan for what we will do if we run out on a single AP or tower >> location. I've never encountered anything like that, and have not >> found anything in my limited searching that is similar enough to give >> me an idea. >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> If you're getting your IPs from ARIN and are running out, clearly you >>> can justify another block. Is there not enough time for this? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Alan Bryant >>> <a...@gtekcommunications.com> wrote: >>> >>>> We are in the process of redesigning our entire network from our >>>> upstream all the way to the customer. >>>> >>>> Currently everything is bridged and on the same physical network. >>>> Obviously we are wanting to change this for many reasons. Subnetting >>>> it out on the private side isn't a problem, but the public side is. >>>> >>>> We are leaning towards having routeros based routers at every tower >>>> and subnetting all the way to the AP's. We don't have enough public >>>> IP's to allow enough room for much growth. My main question is, what >>>> is the best course of action once you run out of IP's at an AP or >>>> tower? What is the most efficient way of bringing more IP's in without >>>> renumbering everything? >>>> >>>> I appreciate any and all responses on or off list. Let me know if more >>>> information is needed to give better answers. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Official list of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - www.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > - -- > Bradley D. Thornton > Manager Network Services > NorthTech Computer > TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US) > TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK) > http://NorthTech.US > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJMJSEKAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3uuoIAKB/8AkHziOZCOKRycZtTk+d > loyN/Zhh9HlhUN8WcrlFrYbedHZF4F7Cjun9VtF4/Uh2cMIP5LH8AwHokgASiwJ4 > BAq6fdi+6JgJ8CKB30Oj+eQyxP/SY4aaHf2QIhs8FwuaWGA1j8PnjyDZBS3ucUYp > 6Gvu1JlF9UhYjwIA1I+RYTUqRUrQlNw59E8uVyZwXvT/QmxH0rZs58SHW0EU65Ch > Lvn/xV7K4Wcv32PYeMT24cHg+ygh+d9EKix84W8B7vLqeSd1vnm1CSwrfRzxdog8 > cZxli+q76ICjMGbFk/tLqOKMBjxjCBAVueHBu9vs9z7GTM/KgQg6H2bGA86ZCh8= > =KUIB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/