I have limited sympathy with your comments for a simple reason...    Health 
Care IS NOW a political topic.    So is broadband.  So is internet network 
operations.   So is bandwidth control, so is hiring someone, so is firing 
someone, so are the money management choices you make, so is retirement, so 
are benefits, so are, well, dang near every aspect of our business lives.

I'd say none of us, at least the smaller guys, asked for any of this to be 
brought upon us.    20 years ago, hardly a single thing mentioned above was 
or had ANY political concerns, and now, they're all political, and rarely 
are the political concerns going to bring about wise or prudent outcomes.

This has been pushed upon us, by interests not in our favor, and those 
interests are not going away, nor are they moderating in the slightest.   In 
fact, they are intent upon making MUCH more of our businesses and lives 
political.

Yes, there are simple dollar value equations to some aspects of employer 
based health care, but some of it's purely political now.    Any discussion 
of bandwidth management and application prioritization necessitates a 
weighing and ultimately making judgments about political things.   Even 
arguments over what the politics actually means and how far it intends to 
reach and how much it legally CAN reach.   Which ultimately brings us to the 
point where we discuss the topic of health care the same way we discuss 
customers who use the CD tray as a coffee cup holder, or expect us to do 
miracles, on a budget of dander and fluff - and that discussion is by 
necessity as much political as moral, logical, ethical.

So you want us to NOT express our opinions on the nature of the political 
intrusions into our business.    Might as well say that we can't express 
opinion about cranky customers, or which operating system is best on SBC's 
or how to manage a network.   By necessity, these things are all relevant, 
as are our opinions of them.  But so, too, the political aspects of our 
business, must be at least some what legitimate to discuss, lest we as a 
group by default follow a political course with no discussion or even 
consideration to where that leads us.

It would be reasonable and proper to ask to keep such discussions relevant 
and topically accurate, and to try to keep this from degenerating into a 
political flame war.   More importantly, it is necessary that respect be 
given to those who don't agree with your opinion, and that the "there is 
only one default and acceptable opinion - that which is "politically 
correct" and I see that happen in a lot of places these days.   And usually, 
that opinion and default position is utterly indefensible, but is never 
challenged, due to the powers that be preventing dissent.

I would prefer that our discussions were not about politics.   But they have 
to be, since politics has invited itself into darn near every aspect of our 
business.    I'd say there's a powerful lesson there... but that would be 
ideological, huh.

Sigh.....


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From: "Forbes Mercy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:45 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Health Insurance

> Rick,
>
> Can we nip this in the butt right now?  The discussion was to see if it
> was feasible for WISPA to look at a group rate for health care, it is
> now evolving into a political discussion.  Political discussions usually
> degrade into undesirable threads which make people mad and ultimately
> cause one or more to ask to be unsubscribed from the Members list.  We
> consider that a sad loss because they won't get the benefit of the many
> discussions we have that have to do with being a WISP just because
> someone wanted to spread their own political views.  We are not an
> advocacy for political causes other than for more spectrum and better
> rules for WISP's.  You obviously wanted to spread your views all across
 



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