I do the same. BT really mucks up a network.

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I’ve seen Bittorent use UDP and have as many as 50 UDP sessions per
> client running it. At that point I rate limit them to 256k and wait for the
> phone call.
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Bret Clark
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:56 AM
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> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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> First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM.
>
> Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2
> priority WMM needs:
>
> "/ip firewall
> mangle
>
> add action=set-priority chain=prerouting comment="VoIP WMM " disabled=no
> new-priority=from-dscp passthrough=yes protocol=\
>     udp "
>
> Most VoIP services tend to use DSCP of 46.
>
> Then I set a somewhat broadbase firewall/queue rule which basically says
> UDP packets should get preference since 99.9% of VoIP is UDP and I make it
> the first queue rule before all others.
>
> "/ip firewall mangle> add action=mark-packet chain=forward comment=VoIP
> disabled=no in-interface=ether1 new-packet-mark=VoIP \
>     passthrough=no protocol=udp"
>
> "/queue simple
>     add burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s comment=""
> direction=both disabled=no dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 
> interface=all<http://0.0.0.0/0interface=all>\
>     limit-at=0/0 max-limit=0/0 name="VoIP Traffic" packet-marks=VoIP
> parent=none priority=1 queue=synchronous-default/synchronous-default \
>     total-queue=default-small"
>
> These rules can be massaged quite a bit to be more specific since a lot of
> other apps use UDP too. Some things we'll do to make the rule more specific
> is find out the users VoIP provider and then setup the queue based on the
> VoIP's IP block.
>
> On 09/14/2010 07:36 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>
>  What specific rules did you add for your voip.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:21 AM, Bret Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both
> the CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at layer 2,
> but layer 3.
>
> On 09/13/2010 10:43 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both?
>
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret Clark <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to
> ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our
> users.
>
>
>
> On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said
> > "complaints about slowdowns".  I would say TDMA would be the best bet
> > to solve this problem cost effectively.
> >
> > If you half the channel size, half the number of clients.  Not the
> > other way around.
> >
> >
> >> Can the UBNT co-exist
> >>
> > Contract issues says he can only replace the radio, not add more
> equipment.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
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> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, John Vogel<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >
> >> Can the UBNT co-exist with MT APs in the same environment or will the
> UBNT
> >> wipe out all other 802.11x based APs on nearby channels within hearing
> >> distance?
> >>
> >> On 9/13/2010 1:10 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
> >>
> >> > From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy
> when
> >> you make the switch.  I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings
> went
> >> from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no matter what
> >> time.  Just be ready for three things, you can't put usernames in the
> ACL
> >> like Mikrotik, there is less routing because UBNT expects filtering to
> be
> >> done in your router before their equipment, and it will never go down
> >> because it's just a transparent bridge so traffic that would have
> >> overwhelmed Mikrotik equipment and crashed the LAN port won't happen on
> >> Ubiquity.  Oh and you're right, I've found that if you use dual-polarity
> you
> >> can't mix that with non-dual and connections with non-, its far better
> to
> >> have all Airmax running rather than a mix, this means replacing CPE so
> that
> >> all customers on that tower are the same equipment, spendy (relative to
> >> UBNT's low cost) but worth it.
> >>
> >> Forbes Mercy
> >> Washington Broadband
> >>
> >> On 9/13/2010 10:31 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> >>
> >> All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT.   I
> have a
> >> AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns.
> >> They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g.  This is a tower that due to
> >> contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment.  So I am considering
> >> taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT
> Rocket
> >> and Airmax 120 sector.  It will take time to physically switch all my
> >> clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done
> before
> >> the snow flies.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone down this?  Success?  I know I cannot turn on Airmax till
> >> everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till
> you
> >> get it on?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve Barnes
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