I agree with Travis. Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis, you would do at the edge between you and your upstream. Your APs, backhauls and other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc
I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT router, Butch's template and forget about it. If you do have an issue (IMO it will be something a person did to the network if no one logs into it making changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list, etc. I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router. When I did, it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are running. I > have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000 Mikrotik customer > radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy) and have NONE of the issues > you describe. > > Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it has > thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x 150Mbps on a daily > basis, and has been up for over 6 months right now (due only to firmware > upgrades). > > Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix that, or > you will continue to have more and more problems... > > Travis > Microserv > > > > On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > > Really Josh, you want me to rehash this? To be simple I'm not a true geek, > I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all. Our network of 700 over 12 > towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't keep radios up long enough to > make us routed along with the growth sprut we've had this year (we 're > averaging 3 installs a day with one installer/field tech). We've found that > if you get over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four of our > towers have over that. When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that 10% Moto) it > worked great for about a year and a half, then the packet storms started, > then radios started doing weird intermittent things like turning off. Sure > we did the obvious, change passwords, isolate the radios from the rest of > the network but it just started to get worse, probably traffic driven from > our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth (we are 90% > residential so Netflix type stuff). > > To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti radios. > Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure really started to take > down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges now drop with undiagnoisable (new > word) regularity. Then the bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but > for some reason the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that > were like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges. We compensated by making a > path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we could maybe ... (fix the > disabled port/bridge) from either end. We are spending all of our time > building redundant this and redundant that until we realized one thing, on > every outage Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or > turning off radios (disabling) meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down, ever. > So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only lose AP's and the > bandwidth manager. Since the bandwidth manager takes the entire network > down we want replace it. Now you're up to speed on where we are, I call > Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum' mover, we have to stop our forward motion > on building and installing so we can restore service, it takes the fun out > of this business thats for sure. > > Forbes > > On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work? > On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, "Forbes Mercy" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new > > bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or > > bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm > > looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > Forbes > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wants You! 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