Since I do not have all the information you might be right. What I have read says you have a mikrotik router (all ethernet) that is dropping interfaces. Not sure how that relates to Ubnt gear since they are wireless, unless you mean a MT with wireless and not a x86 unit. I do not equate a wireless router to a core router, or possibly the issues are effecting all units? I will concede that is possible since I have not seen any real information on the network. $6k? Id do it for half that, or wager the $6k vs being able to make what you have now work =) (or at least most of it)
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Forbes Mercy <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> wrote: > Again not a true statement, $3000 for a visit by a network > administrator to route us (already got the quote), $600 for a packeteer > on eBay. Then we can route it ourselves because the network won't drop > every day when a piece of crap router drops the ethernet port every time > it sees traffic it doesn't like, who designs something like that > anyway!? ZERO drops from UBNT gear and it's handling the exact same > gear as the Mikrotik did, EXACT same packets. OK ok sorry I'm getting > pissed now, going to walk away for the night... I just asked for > alternatives, that's all. Didn't mean to walk into the MAC users group > and say Windows was better. > > On 10/14/2010 5:01 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >> Sounds like you need to have someone come visit the network in person. >> There has to be a reasonable explination for what is going on your >> network, and i posit that no device you find is going to work right >> till that root cause is found. >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Forbes Mercy >> <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> wrote: >>> I also haven't been in my core router in ages, my template IS by Butch as I >>> stated before, I HAVE had Dennis look at the outages, everyone is stumped, >>> if I can't depend on it I don't want it. THEN I'll have time to route the >>> network. I've used Mikrotik for years and until the load got to high things >>> ran fine, I wish I could make it work but its down just too much. >>> >>> On 10/14/2010 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> I agree with Travis. >>> >>> Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis, you >>> would do at the edge between you and your upstream. Your APs, backhauls and >>> other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc >>> >>> I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT router, >>> Butch's template and forget about it. If you do have an issue (IMO it will >>> be something a person did to the network if no one logs into it making >>> changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list, etc. >>> >>> I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router. When I did, >>> it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnson<t...@ida.net> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are running. I >>>> have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000 Mikrotik customer >>>> radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy) and have NONE of the issues >>>> you describe. >>>> >>>> Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it has >>>> thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x 150Mbps on a >>>> daily >>>> basis, and has been up for over 6 months right now (due only to firmware >>>> upgrades). >>>> >>>> Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix that, or >>>> you will continue to have more and more problems... >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >>>> >>>> Really Josh, you want me to rehash this? To be simple I'm not a true >>>> geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all. Our network of 700 >>>> over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't keep radios up long >>>> enough to make us routed along with the growth sprut we've had this year >>>> (we >>>> 're averaging 3 installs a day with one installer/field tech). We've found >>>> that if you get over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four >>>> of our towers have over that. When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that 10% >>>> Moto) it worked great for about a year and a half, then the packet storms >>>> started, then radios started doing weird intermittent things like turning >>>> off. Sure we did the obvious, change passwords, isolate the radios from >>>> the >>>> rest of the network but it just started to get worse, probably traffic >>>> driven from our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth >>>> (we are 90% residential so Netflix type stuff). >>>> >>>> To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti radios. >>>> Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure really started to take >>>> down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges now drop with undiagnoisable (new >>>> word) regularity. Then the bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but >>>> for some reason the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that >>>> were like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges. We compensated by making a >>>> path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we could maybe ... (fix >>>> the >>>> disabled port/bridge) from either end. We are spending all of our time >>>> building redundant this and redundant that until we realized one thing, on >>>> every outage Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or >>>> turning off radios (disabling) meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down, ever. >>>> So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only lose AP's and the >>>> bandwidth manager. Since the bandwidth manager takes the entire network >>>> down we want replace it. Now you're up to speed on where we are, I call >>>> Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum' mover, we have to stop our forward motion >>>> on building and installing so we can restore service, it takes the fun out >>>> of this business thats for sure. >>>> >>>> Forbes >>>> >>>> On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work? >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, "Forbes Mercy"<forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new >>>>> bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or >>>>> bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm >>>>> looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Forbes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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