A couple of ideas for in-expensive AC power monitoring.... 

1. The Canary Method. 
Take a busted radio, any device that can hold an ip address,. respond to pings, 
power it using AC, and use ping monitoring to determine loss of AC Power. 

2 The Mikrotik Method (if your Model of MT has Voltage Monitor). 
If you are using a Mikrotik Router @ Site. Mikrotik Routers can be powered 
using two sources of Power. One on the DC Jack and other on POE (port1). 
By default it will use the power sources with the higher voltage as primary. 
Use this method to power the MT from AC power, as well as DC Power... 
There is a nice script ( 
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Monitor_input_voltage_on_RB333/433AH ), that 
allows you to monitor the Voltage, and send email of a change in voltage is 
detected. 

3. The GregSowell Method. 
Create an ethernet loopback plug using a small relay.. 
http://gregsowell.com/?p=2093 

There are other more fancy devices that will give you alters too.. the above 
are the inexpensive versions... 


Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Roger Howard" <[email protected]> 
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:14:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Portable Alternators? 

Alternatively, run your equipment on DC from an Iota DLS charger, which is 
constantly trickle charging some batteries. When the power goes out, it will 
run a lot longer because you're not converting (like a UPS) from DC coming out 
of your batteries to AC and then converting from AC back to DC again in a POE 
to power the radio. 

Just use DC to DC converters to get the different DC voltages you need to run 
your various equipment. 

Plug your generator into the Iota charger to power it. I bet you'll get clean 
DC out of it. Especially if a battery is plugged in, which I think will help 
smooth out the DC current. I haven't tested it, but we're using DC everywhere. 
Just don't have to use a generator since the battery backup lasts so long. 

I recently had a tower with 6 radios on it, which had two deep cycle marine 
batteries from walmart. Someone somehow left the breaker off after working on 
the site. It ran for 3 days directly off the batteries before going down. We 
now have to monitor each the site is being fed by AC or not. Haven't got around 
to that yet. Maybe some mFi will help with this. Except the single port mFi 
doesn't have ethernet. 

Cheers! 
Roger 
G5 Internet, LLC 


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Blair Davis < [email protected] > wrote: 



Especially with those small, cheap 2-cycle, 800-1000W generators, a 200-400W 
light stabilizes it well. 

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On 5/8/2013 1:27 PM, Joel Mulkey wrote: 

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We've noticed that our cheap generators won't charge the UPSs back up without 
some extra load to stabilize things. To provide that load we include a 500w or 
1000w halogen construction light with each generator kit. Plug the light in and 
the voltage stabilizes, which allows the UPS to kick back on to the line power. 
It also provides some nice lighting if it's at night.

Joel Mulkey
CIO
Freewire
Direct: 503-616-2557 | Support: 503-614-8282 http://www.gofreewire.com 
http://twitter.com/FreewireNetwork On May 8, 2013, at 10:17 AM, 
[email protected] wrote: 

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This is the third time in about two years that we've had some major 
power outages across our region due to the supplier lines going down.

Every time the situation is the same,

We roll out our portable generators to a few of our smaller sites that 
don't have full-time generators -- and every time we have to fight with 
them to get clean power out of them -- usually just ending up putting 
equipment directly on the generators and bypassing the UPS systems.

I've seen the generators go everywhere from 40Hz to 90Hz.

Has anyone come across a nice portable alternator (as opposed to a 
generator) that can be taken to tower sites as supplementary power?

~ Matt 



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