If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though...
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: > For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a > Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. > > Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email > due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the > message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google > apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the > mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped > through our barracuda filter. > > Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google > SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a > minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user". > Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no > one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as > a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. > > After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them > headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error > message I was already given in the SMTP session ( > http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). > > Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. > > Nick Olsen > Network Operations > (855) FLSPEED x106 > > > ------------------------------ > *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM > > *To*: [email protected] > *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting > > > Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can". > > What is the issue? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. >> Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones". >> >> Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The >> .. Irish... people?" >> >> Nick Olsen >> Network Operations >> (855) FLSPEED x106 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM >> *To*: [email protected] >> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >> >> >> Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. >>> >>> Nick Olsen >>> Network Operations >>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM >>> *To*: [email protected] >>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>> >>> >>> Did you talk to the Irish people? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue >>>> most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. >>>> /2cents >>>> >>>> Nick Olsen >>>> Network Operations >>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From*: "Mac Dearman" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM >>>> *To*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>> >>>> Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of >>>> the >>>> customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their >>>> webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is >>>> all >>>> just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was >>>> free :-) , but it sure is sweet >>>> >>>> >>>> Mac >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Robert >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>> >>>> Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... >>>> We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help >>>> from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and >>>> charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. >>>> >>>> On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: >>>> > We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months >>>> > now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. >>>> > Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a >>>> > month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > YMMV, GL >>>> > Mac >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> > On Behalf Of Matt >>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM >>>> > To: WISPA General List >>>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>> > >>>> >> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini >>>> was. >>>> >> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the >>>> >> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. >>>> > >>>> > About how much is Tucows per box? >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ----- >>>> > No virus found in this message. >>>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> > Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: >>>> > 03/06/14 >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: >>>> 03/06/14 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>> >>>
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