But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: > Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. > > However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email > that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that > Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually > Received more then a few emails per minute. > > Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when > I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. > > Nick Olsen > Network Operations > (855) FLSPEED x106 > > > ------------------------------ > *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM > *To*: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting > > If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one > moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through >> a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. >> >> Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email >> due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the >> message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google >> apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the >> mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped >> through our barracuda filter. >> >> Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by >> google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 >> messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is >> "per-user". Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's >> incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a >> whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that >> limit. >> >> After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them >> headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error >> message I was already given in the SMTP session ( >> http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). >> >> Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. >> >> Nick Olsen >> Network Operations >> (855) FLSPEED x106 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM >> >> *To*: [email protected] >> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >> >> >> Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can". >> >> What is the issue? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. >>> Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones". >>> >>> Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The >>> .. Irish... people?" >>> >>> Nick Olsen >>> Network Operations >>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM >>> *To*: [email protected] >>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>> >>> >>> Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. >>>> >>>> Nick Olsen >>>> Network Operations >>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM >>>> *To*: [email protected] >>>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>> >>>> >>>> Did you talk to the Irish people? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue >>>>> most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. >>>>> /2cents >>>>> >>>>> Nick Olsen >>>>> Network Operations >>>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From*: "Mac Dearman" <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM >>>>> *To*: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>>> >>>>> Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of >>>>> the >>>>> customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in >>>>> their >>>>> webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is >>>>> all >>>>> just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it >>>>> was >>>>> free :-) , but it sure is sweet >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mac >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Robert >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>>> >>>>> Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using >>>>> GoDaddy... >>>>> We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help >>>>> from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and >>>>> charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. >>>>> >>>>> On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: >>>>> > We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months >>>>> > now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. >>>>> > Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a >>>>> > month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > YMMV, GL >>>>> > Mac >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> > On Behalf Of Matt >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM >>>>> > To: WISPA General List >>>>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting >>>>> > >>>>> >> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini >>>>> was. >>>>> >> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the >>>>> >> customer's communications. 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