For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a 
Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. 
  
 Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email 
due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the 
message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google 
apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the 
mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped 
through our barracuda filter.
  
 Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google 
SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a 
minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user". 
Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no 
one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as 
a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit.
  
 After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them 
headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error 
message I was already given in the SMTP session 
(http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
  
 Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

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 From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   

Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".  

What is the issue?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> 
wrote:   Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret 
for me. Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
  
 Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The 
.. Irish... people?"
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations   (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

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 From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting    

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.    


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373    On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> 
wrote:    Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations    (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

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 From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting     

Did you talk to the Irish people?      

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373      On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> 
wrote:     Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email 
issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. 
/2cents
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations     (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

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 From: "Mac Dearman" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting      
   Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>
>
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
>> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
>
> About how much is Tucows per box?
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