So you got the USF tax removed from your Comcast transport circuit?

Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 4/16/14, 12:30 PM, ralph wrote:
> We did this, and won.
> 
> Still trying to get credit for what was paid before we squeaked.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Kristian Hoffmann
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:06 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
> 
>  
> 
> The key for Comcast is to make sure your contract says intra-state and
> not inter-state for the tax jurisdiction.  They don't collect USF on
> intra-state circuits, only local city/county/state taxes as applicable. 
> If your contract says inter-state (and it isn't inter-state), you can
> harass your sales rep into getting a change order done.  If it's
> intra-state and they still collect USF, then make the appropriate stink
> with your sales rep.
> 
> -Kristian
> 
> On 04/15/2014 03:44 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> 
>     Oh really?  Comcast wants to charge me 16% USF on a point to point
>     to carry Internet traffic. 
> 
>     Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>     On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net
>     <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
> 
>         hmmm...... not quite accurate...
> 
>          
> 
>             Internet Freedom Act was updated to allow for taxes not to
>         apply to internet access as well as communication circuits
>         carrying internet access.
> 
>          
> 
>         Regards.
> 
>          
> 
>         Faisal Imtiaz
>         Snappy Internet & Telecom
>         7266 SW 48 Street
>         Miami, FL 33155
>         Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
>          
> 
>         Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
>         supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
> 
>          
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>         
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> 
>             *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com
>             <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
>             *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
>             <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>             *Sent: *Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:12:00 PM
>             *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for  WISPs
> 
>              
> 
>             I believe the reason you are being taxed is because this is
>             a transport and not an internet circuit. 
> 
>              
> 
>             As far as I know the internet freedom act only applies to
>             Internet access. 
> 
>              
> 
>             Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>             On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:19 PM, "Tom DeReggi"
>             <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
>             <mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>> wrote:
> 
>              
> 
>                 Guys,
> 
>                  
> 
>                 I've been out of the loop for a couple years, regarding
>                 current status of CAF/USF/Tax requirements for
>                 WISPs.  I was surprised when I recieved my first bill
>                 from my new upstream fiber provider.
> 
>                 (they are a dark fiber provider, recently expanded to
>                 also offer metro ethernet IP)
> 
>                 Note: I do NOT buy IP Transit from this provider, nor
>                 Last mile Fiber. I am just buying a Point-to-Point Fiber
>                 Transport data link.
> 
>                 So I consider this a wholesale component or
>                 infrastructure component, not an End User Internet circuit.
> 
>                  
> 
>                 In the past, my Fiber providers never charged me any
>                 Taxes or USF.  
> 
>                 I was under the impression that as a WISP (Im not a
>                 CLEC) providing Broadband only services, I didnt need to
>                 collect or pay into USF, CAF, or State Taxes. And
>                 further, my Upstream should be exempt from having to pay
>                 and/or collect such fees from me.  If so, I need to
>                 provide legal documentation to support my claim to my
>                 upstream.
> 
>                  
> 
>                 THe new fiber provider is trying to charge me....
> 
>                 The Federal USF stated was about 16.5% of monthly fiber
>                 cost.
> 
>                 The VA Communication Tax was about 6% of monthly fiber cost.
> 
>                 The Property Tax / Franchise/Row Recovery Fees 0.08% of
>                 monthly fiber cost.
> 
>                  
> 
>                 First, I thought it was federal law that Broadband can
>                 not be taxed by the State.
> 
>                 Second, the USF amount stated was 16.5%, but in the
>                 past, when USF was applicable it was  always only around 6%.
> 
>                  
> 
>                 Note: I do NOT buy IP Transit from this provider, nor
>                 Last mile Fiber. I am just buying a Point-to-Point Fiber
>                 Transport data link.
> 
>                 So I consider this a wholesale component or
>                 infrastructure component, not an End User Internet circuit.
> 
>                  
> 
>                 So questions are....
> 
>                  
> 
>                 1) Am I exempt as a WISP.
> 
>                 2) Is there a standard government form I can provide to
>                 my uptream, to document my exemption (similar to use tax
>                 resell certificate)
> 
>                 3) Is CAF in effect now (Broadband providers paying into
>                 USF) and if so, what is the current % rate?
> 
>                 4) Does it matter how my upstream classifies themselves
>                 versus how I classify myself? (for example, if they've
>                 obtained CLEC status or not, or im not a CLEC).
> 
>                 5) Does it matter how I use the circuit?  
> 
>                 6) Any specific FCC code to point to, that specifies
>                 this clearly?
> 
>                  
> 
>                 Figured Id ask, before I go searching through regulation
>                 code.
> 
>                  
> 
>                 Tom DeReggi
>                 RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>                 301-515-7774
> 
>                 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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