There was none. We just kept refusing to pay it and explained it several times.
They finally removed it.
Having a good relationship with your A.E. helps a lot I guess.
I lot of it was just making them understand that, since they had all the
addresses of the drops, it was NOT interstate.
I used to fight this with the phone company as well several years ago in
another life.
_____
From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com]
To: WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org]
Sent: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:33:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
That's what I meant... interesting. Good to know! Can you reference
the paperwork ID number you had to request?
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 4/16/14, 1:28 PM, ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:
> From our Metro Ethernet network
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com]
> *To:* WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org]
> *Sent:* Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:41:22 -0400
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
>
> So you got the USF tax removed from your Comcast transport circuit?
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312[Call: +1 (570) 723-7312] <#>
>
> On 4/16/14, 12:30 PM, ralph wrote:
> > We did this, and won.
> >
> > Still trying to get credit for what was paid before we squeaked.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Kristian Hoffmann
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:06 PM
> > *To:* WISPA General List
> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
> >
> >
> >
> > The key for Comcast is to make sure your contract says intra-state and
> > not inter-state for the tax jurisdiction. They don't collect USF on
> > intra-state circuits, only local city/county/state taxes as
> applicable.
> > If your contract says inter-state (and it isn't inter-state), you can
> > harass your sales rep into getting a change order done. If it's
> > intra-state and they still collect USF, then make the appropriate
> stink
> > with your sales rep.
> >
> > -Kristian
> >
> > On 04/15/2014 03:44 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >
> > Oh really? Comcast wants to charge me 16% USF on a point to point
> > to carry Internet traffic.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
> <fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> > <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net
> <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>>> wrote:
> >
> > hmmm...... not quite accurate...
> >
> >
> >
> > Internet Freedom Act was updated to allow for taxes not to
> > apply to internet access as well as communication circuits
> > carrying internet access.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >
> >
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518[Call: (305)663-5518] <#> Option 2 or Email:
> > supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com
> <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>
> > <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
> <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>>
> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
> > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:12:00 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe the reason you are being taxed is because this is
> > a transport and not an internet circuit.
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as I know the internet freedom act only applies to
> > Internet access.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:19 PM, "Tom DeReggi"
> > <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net <mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
> > <mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
> <mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I've been out of the loop for a couple years, regarding
> > current status of CAF/USF/Tax requirements for
> > WISPs. I was surprised when I recieved my first bill
> > from my new upstream fiber provider.
> >
> > (they are a dark fiber provider, recently expanded to
> > also offer metro ethernet IP)
> >
> > Note: I do NOT buy IP Transit from this provider, nor
> > Last mile Fiber. I am just buying a Point-to-Point Fiber
> > Transport data link.
> >
> > So I consider this a wholesale component or
> > infrastructure component, not an End User Internet circuit.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the past, my Fiber providers never charged me any
> > Taxes or USF.
> >
> > I was under the impression that as a WISP (Im not a
> > CLEC) providing Broadband only services, I didnt need to
> > collect or pay into USF, CAF, or State Taxes. And
> > further, my Upstream should be exempt from having to pay
> > and/or collect such fees from me. If so, I need to
> > provide legal documentation to support my claim to my
> > upstream.
> >
> >
> >
> > THe new fiber provider is trying to charge me....
> >
> > The Federal USF stated was about 16.5% of monthly fiber
> > cost.
> >
> > The VA Communication Tax was about 6% of monthly fiber cost.
> >
> > The Property Tax / Franchise/Row Recovery Fees 0.08% of
> > monthly fiber cost.
> >
> >
> >
> > First, I thought it was federal law that Broadband can
> > not be taxed by the State.
> >
> > Second, the USF amount stated was 16.5%, but in the
> > past, when USF was applicable it was always only around 6%.
> >
> >
> >
> > Note: I do NOT buy IP Transit from this provider, nor
> > Last mile Fiber. I am just buying a Point-to-Point Fiber
> > Transport data link.
> >
> > So I consider this a wholesale component or
> > infrastructure component, not an End User Internet circuit.
> >
> >
> >
> > So questions are....
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Am I exempt as a WISP.
> >
> > 2) Is there a standard government form I can provide to
> > my uptream, to document my exemption (similar to use tax
> > resell certificate)
> >
> > 3) Is CAF in effect now (Broadband providers paying into
> > USF) and if so, what is the current % rate?
> >
> > 4) Does it matter how my upstream classifies themselves
> > versus how I classify myself? (for example, if they've
> > obtained CLEC status or not, or im not a CLEC).
> >
> > 5) Does it matter how I use the circuit?
> >
> > 6) Any specific FCC code to point to, that specifies
> > this clearly?
> >
> >
> >
> > Figured Id ask, before I go searching through regulation
> > code.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom DeReggi
> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> > 301-515-7774[Call: 301-515-7774] <#>
> >
> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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