Local offloading is a standard LTE feature. You do need an a device to do it, which in guessing Bai has built into their eNB.
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 17:07, Nathan Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > > So it sounds like you have made Baicells eNB talk to a Breezeway for > authentication. Very cool. > > Re: VPLS, I could be wrong (and I haven't actually tried VPLS/VPWS on > Telrad), but I don't believe the eNB has anything whatsoever to do with > making that work. As far as it is concerned, it is just passing user > traffic. In the Telrad scenario, I *think* the UE constructs a GRE tunnel to > the EPC. > > However, the fact that you say that the Baicells eNB does not send user > traffic to the core but only authenticates against the core might throw a > monkey wrench into that whole theory. For Telrad VPLS to work, you need a > Telrad UE and a Telrad core, and the user traffic clearly needs to go to/from > the core for that to work. > > How does having the eNB send user traffic directly to your gateway even > work?? I mean, that makes sense as long as they can get away with it, because > I think it would be a nightmare, both from the service provider's perspective > as well as from Baicells' perspective, to have to carry all of the user > traffic to the cloud and back, but I thought LTE *required* that user traffic > be tunneled via GTP to the core. Does the Baicells eNB implement part of the > EPC (likely the SGW and PGW bits) itself? If you wanted to, could you elect > to shut those off and have it ship user traffic off to an external EPC as > well? > > What do you do for SIM cards with Baicells UEs? Does Baicells provide those > as well? Have you tried a Baicells SIM in a Telrad UE and vice-versa? > > -- Nathan > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Matthew Carpenter [[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? > > So far I am have able to mix and match the Biacell, and Telrad eNBs and UEs. > > Biacell eNB connects to the core with 0 setup. > With only one change it will connect and work with the Telrad core. > > UEs from both Telrad and Biacells work with either eNBs. > > Things to test: > 1. VPLS from the Telrad Core to the Biacells UE using a Telrad eNB > 2. VPLS from the Telrad Core to the Biacells UE using a Biacells eNB (I > don't believe this will work. There are some updates to the Biacells eNB > coming out soon to add VPLS) > 3. Does the Biacells UE support VPLS ? > 4. Does the Biacells UE allow remote management from the Wireless side? > 5. Do all this again with the new 19.5 dB Biscells UE. > > One cool thing is when the Biacells eNB is using the Telrad core it only send > SIM card authorization to the core. All customer data goes out to its > gateway and not to the core. > > Matthew Carpenter > Amarillo Wireless > 806-316-5071 > > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:03 PM -0500, "Adair Winter" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > You just gonna call up baicell and get the info? > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Matt Hoppes > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > Eh. VPN router. > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:57, Adair Winter > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to their > hosted core, it would be more difficult. > > The other way around works great though. > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt Hoppes > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > Since LTE is a standard.... I wonder if you could hook a Telrad eNB to the > baicells EPC?? > > *gear spinning* > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:20, Adair Winter > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Baicells is going to have cheaper hardware but there will be some trade offs > to other vendors. > for example, no 4x4, do dual carrier, etc. > Also you'll pay per user per month to use their core unless you already have > one. so look at the long term when pricing. > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Josh Luthman > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Baicells referred me to a distributor for pricing. I asked last week. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jun 19, 2016 12:18 PM, "Matt Hoppes" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > I've said too much. I haven't said enough. > > Ask Patrick for more details on pricing. > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:59, CBB - Jay Fuller > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > He said "real" good ;) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Hoppes<mailto:[email protected]> > To: WISPA General List<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? > > As opposed to bad? :P. > > On Jun 18, 2016, at 08:03, Josh Luthman > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > "Good"? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jun 18, 2016 8:02 AM, "Matt Hoppes" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > True. It's good though. Real good. > > On Jun 18, 2016, at 02:24, Chris Ruschmann > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > We all had to sign an NDA. So I'll let the baicells guys answer that one. > > On Jun 17, 2016 9:05 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > Whats the pricing like? > > On Jun 17, 2016, at 19:12, Matt Hoppes > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/thewirelessninja/videos/1017353051688688/ > > On Jun 17, 2016, at 21:07, Christian Palecek > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Ours* brain fart. > > We are deploying in one of our most difficult nlos areas, and another in a > small town center so we'll have a variety of testing. > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Christian Palecek > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: 6/17/16 7:02 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: WISPA General List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? > > We'll have ares up pretty quick, don't have a SU yet though. Only getting > one I guess. > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Chris Ruschmann <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: 6/17/16 3:58 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: WISPA General List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? > > > I should have mine deployed next week as well. Just received the gear today. > > On Jun 17, 2016 1:11 PM, "Mike Francis" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > By: Douglas Adams > "Man [has] always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because > he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-while all the > dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But > conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more > intelligent than man-for precisely the same reason." > > John Michael Francis II > JMF Solutions, Inc > Wavefly Technologies > Internet - Voip - Cloud > 251-517-5069<tel:251-517-5069> > http://jmfsolutions.net > http://wavefly.com > > On 6/17/2016 4:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Anxiously awaiting your results...and a quote! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Mike Francis > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > We received our first shipment of gear this week and plan on beginning > deployment next week. Will let you guys know. We are doing a mix-use > test roll out with a gov cyber task force, so it will be well documented. > > Best regards, > > John Michael Francis II > JMF Solutions, Inc > Wavefly Technologies > Internet - Voip - Cloud > 251-517-5069<tel:251-517-5069> > http://jmfsolutions.net > http://wavefly.com > >> On 6/17/2016 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> I believe the canary would say people have deployed but can not speak >> yet :P Watch lists and Facebook, I'm sure details will forth come very >> soon. >> >>> On 6/17/16 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed? Care >>> to comment on/off list? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071<tel:806.316.5071> > C: 806.231.7180<tel:806.231.7180> > http://www.amarillowireless.net<http://www.amarillowireless.net/> > [https://docs.google.com/a/amarillowireless.net/uc?id=0B-KeaiwIRBHEQl9leFFvVjZuWmc&export=download]<http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071<tel:806.316.5071> > C: 806.231.7180<tel:806.231.7180> > http://www.amarillowireless.net<http://www.amarillowireless.net/> > [https://docs.google.com/a/amarillowireless.net/uc?id=0B-KeaiwIRBHEQl9leFFvVjZuWmc&export=download]<http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net<http://www.amarillowireless.net/> > [https://docs.google.com/a/amarillowireless.net/uc?id=0B-KeaiwIRBHEQl9leFFvVjZuWmc&export=download]<http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
