+1


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mitch
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution





We use Azotel.
Simple easy set up and receipts go to customer.
Support is bar none and they care about our business
like their own.
Ralph if you want to see a live system let me know
I will show you ours
Mitch Koep
218-851-8689 cell



On 2/3/2018 10:46 AM, ralph wrote:

I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.



We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers pay 
monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush)  uses 
Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction number, 
etc. to the Email address the customer provides.  I also receive a copy, which 
is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case there is a 
catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get lost.



IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send the 
receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I must manually 
look up records of any past transactions in their web site.  This is cumbersome 
and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer name in my backup 
receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is good to know they are 
there.



I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show.  
Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never 
officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all.  It 
was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me.



If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would 
probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t 
believe this is not an option of theirs!



Ralph



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>  
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
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I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes. Stripe 
absolutely is more expensive.



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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Agreed!





Josh Richesin

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596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street

Madras, OR 97741





From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > on 
behalf of Brett A Mansfield <li...@silverlakeinternet.com 
<mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> >
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Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution



Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier to 
configure, manage, use, etc.

Thank you,

Brett A Mansfield


On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Only 50% higher, geez.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.



-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe includes 
free ACH now.

Thank you,

Brett A Mansfield


On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?



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  _____


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<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> >
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that with 
tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information from all 
of the customers again.  The first point being more important than the second.





Josh Richesin

Phone: (541) 699-0030 <tel:%28541%29%20699-0030>   |  Fax (541) 526-0988 
<tel:%28541%29%20526-0988>

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 <http://www.surelinebroadband.com> www.surelinebroadband.com

596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street

Madras, OR 97741





From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > on 
behalf of Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
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Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution



Why would you use Stripe?



-----
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<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> >
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

If only they had stripe integration.





Josh Richesin

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<tel:%28541%29%20526-0988>

 <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> j...@surelinebroadband.com

 <http://www.surelinebroadband.com> www.surelinebroadband.com

596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street

Madras, OR 97741





From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > on 
behalf of Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >
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Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution



Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first 
place.



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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.  Everyone 
else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending their time on 
other things instead of replacing what's already working.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that fashion.



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  _____


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To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using the 
Powercode BMU.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
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Suite 1337
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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com 
<mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com> > wrote:

Brian
Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
was using iwisp.gr <http://iwisp.gr>  I just switched to powercode about week 
ago and my
powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime I
call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.

Tim


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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net 
> <mailto:br...@reliableinter.net> >
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>
> What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
> working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
> liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be
> falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
> days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
> consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
> my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
> recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
> solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
> dislike about it?
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