Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your
recommendation?

On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:

> Takes two minutes to setup.
>
>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to
> use.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe like
> the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you could,
> but...
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user
> friendly web and app.
>
> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its
> job. But it’s not pretty.
>
> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad more.
> But it’s way better, IMHO.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:
>
> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly
> IMHO.  Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues
> with it other than what you describe in looking up transactions.
>
>
> Jeff
>
> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote:
>
> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.
>
>
>
> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers
> pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush)  uses
> Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction
> number, etc. to the Email address the customer provides.  I also receive a
> copy, which is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case
> there is a catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get
> lost.
>
>
>
> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send
> the receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I must
> manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site.  This
> is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer
> name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is
> good to know they are there.
>
>
>
> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show.
> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never
> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all.
> It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me.
>
>
>
> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would
> probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t
> believe this is not an option of theirs!
>
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes.
> Stripe absolutely is more expensive.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Agreed!
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Richesin
>
> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>
> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>
> www.surelinebroadband.com
>
> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>
> Madras, OR 97741
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM
> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier
> to configure, manage, use, etc.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brett A Mansfield
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Only 50% higher, geez.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
> includes free ACH now.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brett A Mansfield
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that
> with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information
> from all of the customers again.  The first point being more important than
> the second.
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Richesin
>
> Phone: (541) 699-0030 <%28541%29%20699-0030>  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
> <%28541%29%20526-0988>
>
> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>
> www.surelinebroadband.com
>
> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>
> Madras, OR 97741
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
> wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> Why would you use Stripe?
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> If only they had stripe integration.
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Richesin
>
> Phone: (541) 699-0030 <%28541%29%20699-0030>  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
> <%28541%29%20526-0988>
>
> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>
> www.surelinebroadband.com
>
> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>
> Madras, OR 97741
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
> wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the
> first place.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.
> Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending
> their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that
> fashion.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
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> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using
> the Powercode BMU.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote:
>
> Brian
> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime
> I
> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
> > working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be
> > falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
> > days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
> > my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
> > recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
> > solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
> > dislike about it?
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
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