Well that’s what I mean. I need to look at everything when we go to make our change.
Just looking at the surface it’s like $58/month. If it’s several hundred I’ll probably move everything. I do like the simplicity of stripe and the app makes it very easy to see what’s going on. > On Feb 3, 2018, at 20:05, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > > 30c per transaction too. Which is ironic that you're not complaining about ;P > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >> On Feb 3, 2018 8:01 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> 2.6% vs 2.9%. >> >> Plus stripe doesn’t have 10,000 fees >> >> Compliance fees >> Government fees >> PCI fees >> Parking lot restriping fees >> >> We are about to re do our entire billing system. I’ll run the numbers and >> let you know. >> >> It appears to be a difference of about $58 per month that using stripe costs >> me. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:48, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Depends how much revenue you do. The difference of what I'm paying versus >>> what the website said would be for me. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2018 7:47 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Josh. Stripe isn’t that much more than ippay >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:18, Artie Darrell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your >>>>> recommendation? >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Takes two minutes to setup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to >>>>>> use. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe >>>>>>> like the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you >>>>>>> could, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user >>>>>>> friendly web and app. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its >>>>>>> job. But it’s not pretty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad >>>>>>> more. But it’s way better, IMHO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly >>>>>>> IMHO. Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues >>>>>>> with it other than what you describe in looking up transactions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote: >>>>>>> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most >>>>>>> customers pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing >>>>>>> solution(WiFiRush) uses Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment >>>>>>> receipt with transaction number, etc. to the Email address the customer >>>>>>> provides. I also receive a copy, which is automatically sent to a >>>>>>> folder that is only used in case there is a catastrophic failure of >>>>>>> something and all billing records get lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to >>>>>>> send the receipt to the customer, which it does not. They also say >>>>>>> that I must manually look up records of any past transactions in their >>>>>>> web site. This is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search >>>>>>> for the customer name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom >>>>>>> need them but it is good to know they are there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show. >>>>>>> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never >>>>>>> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at >>>>>>> all. It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging >>>>>>> me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I >>>>>>> would probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. >>>>>>> I can’t believe this is not an option of theirs! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes. >>>>>>> Stripe absolutely is more expensive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Agreed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Richesin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Madras, OR 97741 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Brett A Mansfield >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s >>>>>>> easier to configure, manage, use, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only 50% higher, geez. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe >>>>>>> includes free ACH now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on >>>>>>> that with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card >>>>>>> information from all of the customers again. The first point being >>>>>>> more important than the second. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Richesin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Madras, OR 97741 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why would you use Stripe? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If only they had stripe integration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Richesin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Madras, OR 97741 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the >>>>>>> first place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways. >>>>>>> Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending >>>>>>> their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that >>>>>>> fashion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta. Pretty much everyone is currently using >>>>>>> the Powercode BMU. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 >>>>>>> PM, Tim Reichhart <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brian >>>>>>> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my >>>>>>> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and >>>>>>> everytime I >>>>>>> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the >>>>>>> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Alan Luelf >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher >>>>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > What do we got out there for billing solutions? My current one is not >>>>>>> > working out. I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I >>>>>>> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be >>>>>>> > falling apart. I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45 >>>>>>> > days and they just can't get it done. It's beyond frustrating, time >>>>>>> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why >>>>>>> > my payment site is not secure. I can't take it anymore. I need some >>>>>>> > recommendations on whats out there. I want good support. I need a >>>>>>> > solution with support. What's everybody using? 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