Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user friendly web and app.
IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its job. But it’s not pretty. Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad more. But it’s way better, IMHO. > On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <[email protected]> wrote: > > CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly IMHO. > Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues with it > other than what you describe in looking up transactions. > > Jeff > >> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote: >> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay. >> >> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers >> pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush) uses >> Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction >> number, etc. to the Email address the customer provides. I also receive a >> copy, which is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case >> there is a catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get >> lost. >> >> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send the >> receipt to the customer, which it does not. They also say that I must >> manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site. This >> is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer name >> in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is good >> to know they are there. >> >> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show. >> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never >> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all. >> It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me. >> >> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would >> probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t >> believe this is not an option of theirs! >> >> Ralph >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes. Stripe >> absolutely is more expensive. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> Agreed! >> >> >> Josh Richesin >> Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 >> [email protected] >> www.surelinebroadband.com >> 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street >> Madras, OR 97741 >> >> >> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Brett A Mansfield >> <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier to >> configure, manage, use, etc. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Only 50% higher, geez. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe includes >> free ACH now. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that >> with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information >> from all of the customers again. The first point being more important than >> the second. >> >> >> Josh Richesin >> Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 >> [email protected] >> www.surelinebroadband.com >> 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street >> Madras, OR 97741 >> >> >> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett >> <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> Why would you use Stripe? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> From: "Josh Richesin" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> If only they had stripe integration. >> >> >> Josh Richesin >> Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 >> [email protected] >> www.surelinebroadband.com >> 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street >> Madras, OR 97741 >> >> >> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett >> <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the >> first place. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways. Everyone >> else running Powercode is >> already running the BMU and spending their time on other things instead >> of replacing what's already working. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that fashion. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta. Pretty much everyone is currently using the >> Powercode BMU. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <[email protected]> wrote: >> Brian >> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I >> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my >> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime I >> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the >> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I >> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar. >> >> Tim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Alan Luelf >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution >> >> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > What do we got out there for billing solutions? My current one is not >> > working out. I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I >> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be >> > falling apart. I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45 >> > days and they just can't get it done. It's beyond frustrating, time >> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why >> > my payment site is not secure. I can't take it anymore. I need some >> > recommendations on whats out there. I want good support. I need a >> > solution with support. What's everybody using? 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