See... I told you I'd get railed!
>Hi,
>The mac communauty is also a great market to focus and far more accessible
>than all.
>I don't know perfectly the Tango history, but I'm sure that the concept is
>more tied to the mac philosophy (actions, visual editing...) than the shell
>philosophy, and the mac communauty is still waiting for a such software (a
>powerfull/multiplatform integrated web development tool) to be ported on
>macosX.
>(sorry if I'm wrong on some points, I'm not a mac owner, and I've not
>followed the last evolution of the macosX software market...)
>
>For my part I think the "most productive platform" are those developers wich
>currently don't know the product, we have to use our skills to demonstrate
>that Witango is a powerfull solution, and widely accessible (from the HTML
>newbie to the advanced programmer)
>
>I don't think that many expensive advertising will have some feedback
>without a strong developer communauty with great references. So it's surely
>too soon to start a such plan. We have to make this communauty grow, that's
>the main 'marketing' weapon, it's our credibility
>
>My intention is not to be rude with anyone, I hope that my message(s) does
>not contain a such mean
>
>best regards
>
>Gauthier
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Web Dude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:01 PM
>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Summary of Release Dates
>
>
>> Sorry to burst your bubble, but unfortunately, when it comes to db
>> solutions and the web, Mac has a very small percentage of the market
>> share. I know I am probably going to get railed on this, but Wi
>> should start concentrating on the markets and/or platforms that are
>> going to be the most productive.
>>
>> >The one thing that we can do is to make sure that when Witango 5 is
>released
>> >all of the online news outlets like, on the Mac Side, Maccentral, Macnn,
>Mac
>> >world, ... etc post are continually fed news about Witango. Not only
>product
>> >information, but solutions generated by Witango.
>> >
>> >
>> >Just my 2 cents.
>> >
>> >Jose
>> >
>> >on 4/29/2002 10:23 AM, Gene Wolf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> >> At 03:36 PM 4/29/02 +0200, you wrote:
>> >>> Hi Gene,
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't, of course, speak for With Enterprises. But this is what I
>gathered
>> >>> from the discussions regarding "marketing":
>> >>>
>> >>> - there won't be huge advertisment campaigns or budgets. no $70,000
>> >>> double-page adds or the like.
>> >>>
>> >>> - apparently, much marketing is supposed to be "done" by the
>> >>>community, i.e.
>> >>> the community is expected to be more vocal about Witango
>accomplishments.
>> >>> This may include "powered by Witango" buttons on web sites,
>mentioning
>> >>> Witango in product whitepapers and concepts, and including "Witango"
>on
>> >>> product sheets, marketing papers etc.. Don't forget to include
>"Witango"
>> >>> whenever a newspaper or magazine writes a feature story about a
>project you
>> >>> concluded. You get the idea.
>> >>>
>> >>> - subversive marketing ("Trojan horse"): build a larger Witango
>> >>>user base by
>> >>> supporting schools, universities and non-profits by special
>> >>>discounts on the
>> >>> software.
>> >>>
>> >>> - more regular Witango developers and business conferences; e.g.
>> >>>there's one
>> >>> planned for June or July in Europe (Luxemburg) IIRC.
>> >>>
>> >>> Have I forgotten to mention something?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Sascha, I've heard similar things from another individual so
>I
>> >> suspect your recap is accurate. Unfortunately in my opinion.
>> >>
>> >> I'm in the process of looking for work in Florida. Many of my
>friends
>> >> live there, and all of my family moved there so I visited last week,
>fell
>> >> in love with the place and plan to move there this year if I can find
>work.
>> >> I'm going to be looking for an IT Management position instead of a
>> >> developer position, even though my heart is in programming?
> > >>
>> >> Why? Because I like Tango as a programming tool, it seems only to
>get
>> >> better and so few people hear of it it's almost impossible to get it
>into
>> >> any organization. It seems, with the exception of the folks at
>EveryWare
>> >> anyone else exposed to Tango was so awed by its capabilities that they
>> >> firmly believed the world would beat a path to their door in order
>> >>to use it.
>> >>
>> >> It reminds me of my mainframe days. If anyone has ever coded in
>> >> Fortran, Cobol and PL/1 you know for a fact how much more powerful
>PL/1 is
>> >> than either of the others. So why do you hear so little of PL/1 and so
>much
>> >> of Cobol?
>> >>
>> >> I just performed a search on Monster and Dice. Monster had a "Tango
>> >> Shatterproof Drinkware division" job listed and Dice returned nothing.
>> >> JobSniper, which allows you to search many job banks at once had
>similar
>> >> results.
>> >>
>> >> It's only my opinion but without a cohesive marketing plan I don't
>> >> believe sales of Tango will be enough to support the costs of
>development
>> >> and enhancement. I don't believe the current developer community is
>large
>> >> enough to market the product.
>> >>
>> >> I dislike being a wet blanket but we've all been through this
>before. I
>> >> hope that I am wrong and I hope the folks at Witango reconsider a
>> >> substantial marketing plan.
>> >>
>> >> In the meantime does anyone on this list know of any companies
>hiring
>> >> in Florida? *laughs*
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >> Gene Wolf
>> >>
>> >>
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