Hi,
The mac communauty is also a great market to focus and far more accessible
than all.
I don't know perfectly the Tango history, but I'm sure that the concept is
more tied to the mac philosophy (actions, visual editing...) than the shell
philosophy, and the mac communauty is still waiting for a such software (a
powerfull/multiplatform integrated web development tool) to be ported on
macosX.
(sorry if I'm wrong on some points, I'm not a mac owner, and I've not
followed the last evolution of the macosX software market...)
For my part I think the "most productive platform" are those developers wich
currently don't know the product, we have to use our skills to demonstrate
that Witango is a powerfull solution, and widely accessible (from the HTML
newbie to the advanced programmer)
I don't think that many expensive advertising will have some feedback
without a strong developer communauty with great references. So it's surely
too soon to start a such plan. We have to make this communauty grow, that's
the main 'marketing' weapon, it's our credibility
My intention is not to be rude with anyone, I hope that my message(s) does
not contain a such mean
best regards
Gauthier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Web Dude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Summary of Release Dates
> Sorry to burst your bubble, but unfortunately, when it comes to db
> solutions and the web, Mac has a very small percentage of the market
> share. I know I am probably going to get railed on this, but Wi
> should start concentrating on the markets and/or platforms that are
> going to be the most productive.
>
> >The one thing that we can do is to make sure that when Witango 5 is
released
> >all of the online news outlets like, on the Mac Side, Maccentral, Macnn,
Mac
> >world, ... etc post are continually fed news about Witango. Not only
product
> >information, but solutions generated by Witango.
> >
> >
> >Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >Jose
> >
> >on 4/29/2002 10:23 AM, Gene Wolf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> At 03:36 PM 4/29/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >>> Hi Gene,
> >>>
> >>> I can't, of course, speak for With Enterprises. But this is what I
gathered
> >>> from the discussions regarding "marketing":
> >>>
> >>> - there won't be huge advertisment campaigns or budgets. no $70,000
> >>> double-page adds or the like.
> >>>
> >>> - apparently, much marketing is supposed to be "done" by the
> >>>community, i.e.
> >>> the community is expected to be more vocal about Witango
accomplishments.
> >>> This may include "powered by Witango" buttons on web sites,
mentioning
> >>> Witango in product whitepapers and concepts, and including "Witango"
on
> >>> product sheets, marketing papers etc.. Don't forget to include
"Witango"
> >>> whenever a newspaper or magazine writes a feature story about a
project you
> >>> concluded. You get the idea.
> >>>
> >>> - subversive marketing ("Trojan horse"): build a larger Witango
> >>>user base by
> >>> supporting schools, universities and non-profits by special
> >>>discounts on the
> >>> software.
> >>>
> >>> - more regular Witango developers and business conferences; e.g.
> >>>there's one
> >>> planned for June or July in Europe (Luxemburg) IIRC.
> >>>
> >>> Have I forgotten to mention something?
> >>
> >> Thanks Sascha, I've heard similar things from another individual so
I
> >> suspect your recap is accurate. Unfortunately in my opinion.
> >>
> >> I'm in the process of looking for work in Florida. Many of my
friends
> >> live there, and all of my family moved there so I visited last week,
fell
> >> in love with the place and plan to move there this year if I can find
work.
> >> I'm going to be looking for an IT Management position instead of a
> >> developer position, even though my heart is in programming?
> >>
> >> Why? Because I like Tango as a programming tool, it seems only to
get
> >> better and so few people hear of it it's almost impossible to get it
into
> >> any organization. It seems, with the exception of the folks at
EveryWare
> >> anyone else exposed to Tango was so awed by its capabilities that they
> >> firmly believed the world would beat a path to their door in order
> >>to use it.
> >>
> >> It reminds me of my mainframe days. If anyone has ever coded in
> >> Fortran, Cobol and PL/1 you know for a fact how much more powerful
PL/1 is
> >> than either of the others. So why do you hear so little of PL/1 and so
much
> >> of Cobol?
> >>
> >> I just performed a search on Monster and Dice. Monster had a "Tango
> >> Shatterproof Drinkware division" job listed and Dice returned nothing.
> >> JobSniper, which allows you to search many job banks at once had
similar
> >> results.
> >>
> >> It's only my opinion but without a cohesive marketing plan I don't
> >> believe sales of Tango will be enough to support the costs of
development
> >> and enhancement. I don't believe the current developer community is
large
> >> enough to market the product.
> >>
> >> I dislike being a wet blanket but we've all been through this
before. I
> >> hope that I am wrong and I hope the folks at Witango reconsider a
> >> substantial marketing plan.
> >>
> >> In the meantime does anyone on this list know of any companies
hiring
> >> in Florida? *laughs*
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Gene Wolf
> >>
> >>
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