been waiting for this...

/me hands Ben the asbestos suit...  :^)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Johansen
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:18 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Pushing the E:nvelope ;-)


I am all for Free forums for the public,

But, are you really interested in Witango, or are you just killing time
Jerking us around?

If you want to discuss WO (what objects) or Confussion, I am sure there
are list servers for that.

As long as you keep thinking this is just a Service Pack 2 to your 2
year old knowledge of the past Tango. You will probably never like what
the good people at With Enterprises are doing.

This is Witango and it is going forward, if it is not at your speed,
move on

Ben Johansen 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alex Kac
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Pushing the E:nvelope ;-)

I am waiting patiently :) Seriously, I am very hopeful as I'd love to
rekindle my years of Tango knowledge and comfortablness with Tango. I
truly
would rather not have to start from scratch somewhere else (which I did
with
.net).

I'm also taking the opportunity to download WebObjects through my ADC
account since I now have a few days to spare.

That'll be very interesting - esp. since WO comes with both Mac OS X
deployment and Windows deployment - easing the transition on servers. So
both WO and CF now have free crossgrades, while With (I asked them
directly)
will charge the upgrade fee for that. This comment is just a sidenote.

--  
Alex Kac, CEO/Developer

Innovation in Personal and Business Information Management
http://www.pocketinformant.com/

zoomzoom 


> From: "Ian Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:31:48 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk:  Pushing the E:nvelope ;-)
> 
> To Stephen and all others urgently needing Version 5 info.
> 
> Here's what we can share, just now.
> 
> Information, including pricing is being distributed to resellers, and
they
> have been given a few days to prepare themselves, their websites and
update
> their support systems with the new data.
> 
> When I say a few days, I mean a few days.  That's less than a week.
> 
> Next week, the public beta will be released, and there will be several
> places to go to download it.  You'll be pleased to know that the
Editor is
> being separated from the personal server, to reduce download
requirements.
> The personal server will be a separate item without a cost attached,
but
> with tighter restrictions than were previously on the personal server,
to
> ensure that it is just used for development purposes.
> 
> With the release of the public beta, there will be a detailed list of
> enhancements.
> 
> Witango and Java will become good friends .. and very well-acquainted
.. but
> not in version 5.
> 
> Questions relating to functionality and release date of a Witango
editor
> that incorporates Java capabilities must be deferred to WE.  However,
I can
> personally tell you what I know to be a fact:  elements of the Java
> functionality were demonstrated at the conference in April, and the
next
> release of the Editor will not take as long as Version 5 took, because
the
> time has been taken to re-architect everything to prepare for the
future.
> 
> And all marketing hype aside, I will tell you something else that
everyone
> on this list could figure out for themselves:  that if you combine the
> absolutely top-shelf IDE that is the Witango Editor ... with the
ability to
> create Java in object-oriented fashion, the future is indeed bright.
> 
> And you can take that to the bank.
> 
> Please ... no flames .. for this thread, it's all been said.
> 
> For those who anxiously await the launch of Witango Version 5 public
beta ..
> take a deep breath, have a good weekend, and watch your email
carefully
> early next week.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Arnold
> 
> <sarcasm> Gee, thanks Ben. Such a tease!</sarcasm>
> 
> I would think after the barrage of sentiment that MOST of us are
anxious
> to know when and how much, a few of you insiders wouldn't brag so
much.
> 
> Really, some of us are reaching critical mass on making important
> decisions on software and hardware. Christmas is coming and we know
with
> this year's anticipated volume and loads we can't sustain the status
quo
> again this year. We, like some others, will be forced to seek other
> solutions, despite our affinity for the product and what it may or may
> not offer during its next "life".
> 
> Stephen
> 
>
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