Excellent, we seem to all feel the same way.

So in summary I believe this board report should say:

- we are diverse enough to graduate, although we are a small community
- a more regular release schedule aligned with that of Apache Rave
(which uses Wookie) may help with community development
- graduation should help attract new contributors
- we will seek approval to graduate during the next quarter, after the
0.10 release which is imminent

I'm out of time now, can someone else put it together and I'll sign it off.

Ross


On 23 April 2012 14:55, Franklin, Matthew B. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 4:50 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Fwd: May reports due in ten days
>>
>>Board report due:
>>
>>In February we said "Wookie has a small, reasonably active community,
>>however, the majority of
>>that activity is focussed around one or two individuals."
>>
>>We also said:
>>
>>"as it stands we could probably graduate as we meet
>>the minimum criteria (5 committers from 3 organisations). We recognise that
>>some IPMC members would suggest graduation at this point might help
>>accelerate community growth. We intend to discuss this within the
>>community
>>over the next quarter whilst also seeking to expand our community."
>>
>>However, we've pretty much failed to discuss this. This is not a good
>>sign. None of us have had the time to drive this important issue.
>>
>>Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting there is a fundamental problem
>>here. I'm just saying we need to crack on with it. In my opinion our
>>incubator status is holding us back. Furthermore, Rave has graduated
>>and if we are not careful our incubation status will hold Rave back
>>too.
>>
>>I know from my own conversations with Wookie users that the
>>"incuabting" label is holding some people back (although it may just
>>as well be a convenient excuse). I propose that we undertake to
>>graduate in the next quarter. To do this we really need to address the
>>issues we identified last month:
>>
>>  - [DONE] 0.9.2 release using an improved and simplified release process
>>  - Developer outreach activity (see above)
>>  - Improve communication about Wookie
>>  - ASF Widgets demo
>>
>>So, some questions/ideas:
>>
>>Matt can you help Wookie get to the point of doing regular releases,
>>preferably synced with Rave. I don't mean Rave depends on a Wookie
>>making a new release, I mean we aim to have a new Wookie release out
>>two weeks before the next Rave release is due.
>
> +1.  I think getting on a regular release schedule will be a huge boost.  
> From what I have seen, you are all doing really good work, but we just 
> aren't' getting that out the door on a regular basis.  I can definitely help 
> the team accelerate this.
>
>>
>>Developer outreach - we should undertake to update the tutorials.
>>Perhaps we need to focus more on the creation of widgets as a "simple
>>step" in, if these widgets can run stand-alone (without Wookie) this
>>will attract more people, however, we need to consider whether this is
>>changing the make-up of what the Wookie project is. It might be better
>>to do that in an associated apache-extras project.
>>
>>Previously we discussed making it easy to create widgets that can be
>>usefully reused in the Apache CMS. The trademarks people are, for
>>example, looking at solutions for sponsor visibility. Concom need a
>>way of getting information about upcoming ASF events onto peoples
>>sites. It seems to me both of these are similar use cases. Can we
>>build them as templates?
>>
>>Ross
>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>From: Jukka Zitting <[email protected]>
>>Date: 22 April 2012 12:55
>>Subject: May reports due in ten days
>>To: general <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>It'll soon be time for the podlings reporting in May [1]  to start
>>drafting their reports.
>>
>>When doing so, please consider the review results from February [2]:
>>
>> IP clearance: Amber
>> Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>> Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink, Zeta Components
>> Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>> Ready to graduate: Jena, Lucene.NET, NPanday, OpenNLP
>>
>>Has the situation in your podling changed over the last three months?
>>If not, what's your plan for improving the situation?
>>
>>For example, I notice that Clerezza has made a release, but Stanbol
>>still needs one. Also, Lucene.NET and NPanday are yet to graduate. Did
>>something come up to prevent progress, or have you just not gotten
>>around to it yet (which BTW is fine; much better than having bigger
>>issues)?
>>
>>And to any projects in the "Low activity" category that still aren't
>>seeing increased activity: Do you have a good reason to expect
>>activity to pick up, or should we consider retiring the project?
>>
>>[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2012
>>[2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>>
>>BR,
>>
>>Jukka Zitting
>>
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