On 23 Apr 2012, at 12:33, Kris Popat wrote:

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> On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:10, Scott Wilson wrote:
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>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:59, Kris Popat wrote:
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>>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:37, Scott Wilson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 09:49, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Board report due:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In February we said "Wookie has a small, reasonably active community,
>>>>> however, the majority of
>>>>> that activity is focussed around one or two individuals."
>>>>> 
>>>>> We also said:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "as it stands we could probably graduate as we meet
>>>>> the minimum criteria (5 committers from 3 organisations). We recognise 
>>>>> that
>>>>> some IPMC members would suggest graduation at this point might help
>>>>> accelerate community growth. We intend to discuss this within the 
>>>>> community
>>>>> over the next quarter whilst also seeking to expand our community."
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We're now 6 committers from 4 orgs...
>>>> 
>>>>> However, we've pretty much failed to discuss this. This is not a good
>>>>> sign. None of us have had the time to drive this important issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Easter holidays did kind of get in the way...
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting there is a fundamental problem
>>>>> here. I'm just saying we need to crack on with it. In my opinion our
>>>>> incubator status is holding us back. Furthermore, Rave has graduated
>>>>> and if we are not careful our incubation status will hold Rave back
>>>>> too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know from my own conversations with Wookie users that the
>>>>> "incuabting" label is holding some people back (although it may just
>>>>> as well be a convenient excuse). I propose that we undertake to
>>>>> graduate in the next quarter.
>>>> 
>>>> +1. 
>>>> 
>>>>> To do this we really need to address the
>>>>> issues we identified last month:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - [DONE] 0.9.2 release using an improved and simplified release process
>>>>> - Developer outreach activity (see above)
>>>>> - Improve communication about Wookie
>>>>> - ASF Widgets demo
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, some questions/ideas:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt can you help Wookie get to the point of doing regular releases,
>>>>> preferably synced with Rave. I don't mean Rave depends on a Wookie
>>>>> making a new release, I mean we aim to have a new Wookie release out
>>>>> two weeks before the next Rave release is due.
>>>> 
>>>> I think 0.10.0 is almost ready to go. I'd say the only issue we need to 
>>>> address before starting the next release process is WOOKIE-326, the rest 
>>>> can be pushed back.
>>> 
>>> Just looked over this.  Is postWidget and deleteWidget the two main things 
>>> that still need to be done on the connector?
>> 
>> I updated the API doc, so you can check against this to see if anything is 
>> missing:
>> 
>> http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/docs/api.html
>> 
>> Post widget with response is new, as is Delete widget.
> 
> Great thanks
> 
> Did we take the idea of just returning the widget config file any further?
> 
> I know we can get the whole widget package now, but the client has to extract 
> the config from this if they have stored extra meta-data in the widget config 
> and want to access it.
> 
> I can't remember what we said about this now.

Paul implemented a response to POSTing a new widget that contains the original 
metadata with the icon paths updated to the server location.

> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I know Paul was also intending to write some doc on the release process.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Developer outreach - we should undertake to update the tutorials.
>>>>> Perhaps we need to focus more on the creation of widgets as a "simple
>>>>> step" in, if these widgets can run stand-alone (without Wookie) this
>>>>> will attract more people, however, we need to consider whether this is
>>>>> changing the make-up of what the Wookie project is. It might be better
>>>>> to do that in an associated apache-extras project.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As for other developer outreach activity,  we have our GSoC engagement 
>>>> this year. 
>>>> 
>>>> There will also be a good Wookie presence at both the DevEd and SURFNet 
>>>> events in May/June.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Previously we discussed making it easy to create widgets that can be
>>>>> usefully reused in the Apache CMS. The trademarks people are, for
>>>>> example, looking at solutions for sponsor visibility. Concom need a
>>>>> way of getting information about upcoming ASF events onto peoples
>>>>> sites. It seems to me both of these are similar use cases. Can we
>>>>> build them as templates?
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds feasible. 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ross
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Jukka Zitting <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: 22 April 2012 12:55
>>>>> Subject: May reports due in ten days
>>>>> To: general <[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It'll soon be time for the podlings reporting in May [1]  to start
>>>>> drafting their reports.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When doing so, please consider the review results from February [2]:
>>>>> 
>>>>> IP clearance: Amber
>>>>> Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>>>>> Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink, Zeta Components
>>>>> Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>>>>> Ready to graduate: Jena, Lucene.NET, NPanday, OpenNLP
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has the situation in your podling changed over the last three months?
>>>>> If not, what's your plan for improving the situation?
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, I notice that Clerezza has made a release, but Stanbol
>>>>> still needs one. Also, Lucene.NET and NPanday are yet to graduate. Did
>>>>> something come up to prevent progress, or have you just not gotten
>>>>> around to it yet (which BTW is fine; much better than having bigger
>>>>> issues)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And to any projects in the "Low activity" category that still aren't
>>>>> seeing increased activity: Do you have a good reason to expect
>>>>> activity to pick up, or should we consider retiring the project?
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2012
>>>>> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>>>>> 
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jukka Zitting
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>>>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>>>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
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