On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:10, Scott Wilson wrote:

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> On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:59, Kris Popat wrote:
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>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:37, Scott Wilson wrote:
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>>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 09:49, Ross Gardler wrote:
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>>>> Board report due:
>>>> 
>>>> In February we said "Wookie has a small, reasonably active community,
>>>> however, the majority of
>>>> that activity is focussed around one or two individuals."
>>>> 
>>>> We also said:
>>>> 
>>>> "as it stands we could probably graduate as we meet
>>>> the minimum criteria (5 committers from 3 organisations). We recognise that
>>>> some IPMC members would suggest graduation at this point might help
>>>> accelerate community growth. We intend to discuss this within the community
>>>> over the next quarter whilst also seeking to expand our community."
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> We're now 6 committers from 4 orgs...
>>> 
>>>> However, we've pretty much failed to discuss this. This is not a good
>>>> sign. None of us have had the time to drive this important issue.
>>> 
>>> Easter holidays did kind of get in the way...
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting there is a fundamental problem
>>>> here. I'm just saying we need to crack on with it. In my opinion our
>>>> incubator status is holding us back. Furthermore, Rave has graduated
>>>> and if we are not careful our incubation status will hold Rave back
>>>> too.
>>>> 
>>>> I know from my own conversations with Wookie users that the
>>>> "incuabting" label is holding some people back (although it may just
>>>> as well be a convenient excuse). I propose that we undertake to
>>>> graduate in the next quarter.
>>> 
>>> +1. 
>>> 
>>>> To do this we really need to address the
>>>> issues we identified last month:
>>>> 
>>>> - [DONE] 0.9.2 release using an improved and simplified release process
>>>> - Developer outreach activity (see above)
>>>> - Improve communication about Wookie
>>>> - ASF Widgets demo
>>>> 
>>>> So, some questions/ideas:
>>>> 
>>>> Matt can you help Wookie get to the point of doing regular releases,
>>>> preferably synced with Rave. I don't mean Rave depends on a Wookie
>>>> making a new release, I mean we aim to have a new Wookie release out
>>>> two weeks before the next Rave release is due.
>>> 
>>> I think 0.10.0 is almost ready to go. I'd say the only issue we need to 
>>> address before starting the next release process is WOOKIE-326, the rest 
>>> can be pushed back.
>> 
>> Just looked over this.  Is postWidget and deleteWidget the two main things 
>> that still need to be done on the connector?
> 
> I updated the API doc, so you can check against this to see if anything is 
> missing:
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> http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/docs/api.html
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> Post widget with response is new, as is Delete widget.

Great thanks

Did we take the idea of just returning the widget config file any further?

I know we can get the whole widget package now, but the client has to extract 
the config from this if they have stored extra meta-data in the widget config 
and want to access it.

I can't remember what we said about this now.


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>>> 
>>> I know Paul was also intending to write some doc on the release process.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Developer outreach - we should undertake to update the tutorials.
>>>> Perhaps we need to focus more on the creation of widgets as a "simple
>>>> step" in, if these widgets can run stand-alone (without Wookie) this
>>>> will attract more people, however, we need to consider whether this is
>>>> changing the make-up of what the Wookie project is. It might be better
>>>> to do that in an associated apache-extras project.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As for other developer outreach activity,  we have our GSoC engagement this 
>>> year. 
>>> 
>>> There will also be a good Wookie presence at both the DevEd and SURFNet 
>>> events in May/June.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Previously we discussed making it easy to create widgets that can be
>>>> usefully reused in the Apache CMS. The trademarks people are, for
>>>> example, looking at solutions for sponsor visibility. Concom need a
>>>> way of getting information about upcoming ASF events onto peoples
>>>> sites. It seems to me both of these are similar use cases. Can we
>>>> build them as templates?
>>> 
>>> Sounds feasible. 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ross
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Jukka Zitting <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: 22 April 2012 12:55
>>>> Subject: May reports due in ten days
>>>> To: general <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> It'll soon be time for the podlings reporting in May [1]  to start
>>>> drafting their reports.
>>>> 
>>>> When doing so, please consider the review results from February [2]:
>>>> 
>>>> IP clearance: Amber
>>>> Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>>>> Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink, Zeta Components
>>>> Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>>>> Ready to graduate: Jena, Lucene.NET, NPanday, OpenNLP
>>>> 
>>>> Has the situation in your podling changed over the last three months?
>>>> If not, what's your plan for improving the situation?
>>>> 
>>>> For example, I notice that Clerezza has made a release, but Stanbol
>>>> still needs one. Also, Lucene.NET and NPanday are yet to graduate. Did
>>>> something come up to prevent progress, or have you just not gotten
>>>> around to it yet (which BTW is fine; much better than having bigger
>>>> issues)?
>>>> 
>>>> And to any projects in the "Low activity" category that still aren't
>>>> seeing increased activity: Do you have a good reason to expect
>>>> activity to pick up, or should we consider retiring the project?
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2012
>>>> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>>>> 
>>>> BR,
>>>> 
>>>> Jukka Zitting
>>>> 
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>>>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
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