On 23 Apr 2012, at 12:41, Paul Sharples wrote: > On 23/04/2012 12:33, Kris Popat wrote: >> On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:10, Scott Wilson wrote: >> >>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:59, Kris Popat wrote: >>> >>>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:37, Scott Wilson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 23 Apr 2012, at 09:49, Ross Gardler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Board report due: >>>>>> >>>>>> In February we said "Wookie has a small, reasonably active community, >>>>>> however, the majority of >>>>>> that activity is focussed around one or two individuals." >>>>>> >>>>>> We also said: >>>>>> >>>>>> "as it stands we could probably graduate as we meet >>>>>> the minimum criteria (5 committers from 3 organisations). We recognise >>>>>> that >>>>>> some IPMC members would suggest graduation at this point might help >>>>>> accelerate community growth. We intend to discuss this within the >>>>>> community >>>>>> over the next quarter whilst also seeking to expand our community." >>>>>> >>>>> We're now 6 committers from 4 orgs... >>>>> >>>>>> However, we've pretty much failed to discuss this. This is not a good >>>>>> sign. None of us have had the time to drive this important issue. >>>>> Easter holidays did kind of get in the way... >>>>> >>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting there is a fundamental problem >>>>>> here. I'm just saying we need to crack on with it. In my opinion our >>>>>> incubator status is holding us back. Furthermore, Rave has graduated >>>>>> and if we are not careful our incubation status will hold Rave back >>>>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know from my own conversations with Wookie users that the >>>>>> "incuabting" label is holding some people back (although it may just >>>>>> as well be a convenient excuse). I propose that we undertake to >>>>>> graduate in the next quarter. >>>>> +1. >>>>> >>>>>> To do this we really need to address the >>>>>> issues we identified last month: >>>>>> >>>>>> - [DONE] 0.9.2 release using an improved and simplified release process >>>>>> - Developer outreach activity (see above) >>>>>> - Improve communication about Wookie >>>>>> - ASF Widgets demo >>>>>> >>>>>> So, some questions/ideas: >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt can you help Wookie get to the point of doing regular releases, >>>>>> preferably synced with Rave. I don't mean Rave depends on a Wookie >>>>>> making a new release, I mean we aim to have a new Wookie release out >>>>>> two weeks before the next Rave release is due. >>>>> I think 0.10.0 is almost ready to go. I'd say the only issue we need to >>>>> address before starting the next release process is WOOKIE-326, the rest >>>>> can be pushed back. >>>> Just looked over this. Is postWidget and deleteWidget the two main things >>>> that still need to be done on the connector? >>> I updated the API doc, so you can check against this to see if anything is >>> missing: >>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/docs/api.html >>> >>> Post widget with response is new, as is Delete widget. >> Great thanks >> >> Did we take the idea of just returning the widget config file any further? >> >> I know we can get the whole widget package now, but the client has to >> extract the config from this if they have stored extra meta-data in the >> widget config and want to access it. >> >> I can't remember what we said about this now. > > Do you mean this issue Kris? > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WOOKIE-324
Similar to that yes, but retrieved at any point with a REST call with either a widget instance id or the widget identifier. > >> >> >>> >>>>> I know Paul was also intending to write some doc on the release process. >>>>> >>>>>> Developer outreach - we should undertake to update the tutorials. >>>>>> Perhaps we need to focus more on the creation of widgets as a "simple >>>>>> step" in, if these widgets can run stand-alone (without Wookie) this >>>>>> will attract more people, however, we need to consider whether this is >>>>>> changing the make-up of what the Wookie project is. It might be better >>>>>> to do that in an associated apache-extras project. >>>>> >>>>> As for other developer outreach activity, we have our GSoC engagement >>>>> this year. >>>>> >>>>> There will also be a good Wookie presence at both the DevEd and SURFNet >>>>> events in May/June. >>>>> >>>>>> Previously we discussed making it easy to create widgets that can be >>>>>> usefully reused in the Apache CMS. The trademarks people are, for >>>>>> example, looking at solutions for sponsor visibility. Concom need a >>>>>> way of getting information about upcoming ASF events onto peoples >>>>>> sites. It seems to me both of these are similar use cases. Can we >>>>>> build them as templates? >>>>> Sounds feasible. >>>>> >>>>>> Ross >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Jukka Zitting<[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 22 April 2012 12:55 >>>>>> Subject: May reports due in ten days >>>>>> To: general<[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> It'll soon be time for the podlings reporting in May [1] to start >>>>>> drafting their reports. >>>>>> >>>>>> When doing so, please consider the review results from February [2]: >>>>>> >>>>>> IP clearance: Amber >>>>>> Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol >>>>>> Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink, Zeta Components >>>>>> Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie >>>>>> Ready to graduate: Jena, Lucene.NET, NPanday, OpenNLP >>>>>> >>>>>> Has the situation in your podling changed over the last three months? >>>>>> If not, what's your plan for improving the situation? >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, I notice that Clerezza has made a release, but Stanbol >>>>>> still needs one. Also, Lucene.NET and NPanday are yet to graduate. Did >>>>>> something come up to prevent progress, or have you just not gotten >>>>>> around to it yet (which BTW is fine; much better than having bigger >>>>>> issues)? >>>>>> >>>>>> And to any projects in the "Low activity" category that still aren't >>>>>> seeing increased activity: Do you have a good reason to expect >>>>>> activity to pick up, or should we consider retiring the project? >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2012 >>>>>> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012 >>>>>> >>>>>> BR, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jukka Zitting >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >>>>>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >>>>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> >
