.... and regardless of the benefits or otherwise of placeholder text in text inputs, having dummy values in password fields is presumably useless.
in fact, i would say it's worse than useless, as the last thing you want is someone leaving the password field unchanged and then having no idea what the password is. i conclude that this is a bug in Bobby and/or a flaw in the guidelines that it is based on. On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:19:45 +1000, Web Usability <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry I am late on this topic. > > But I agree with Steven. In practice, the screen reader users I have worked > with find form place holders an irritant. > > Roger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 4 October 2004 4:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [WSG] default place-holders for forms > > Hi Andreas, > not sure about the article, but we do recommend to our clients that they > not use default place holding cahracters. > from what i have read on the various accessibility lists, it appears that > it is pretty safe to say that the checkpoint is no longer relevant. > but i may be wrong.............. > > some relevant list discussions > > Paul Bohman from webaim was saying its no longer needed back in 02' > http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_message.php?id=2113 > > Updating specs and tools Re: place-holding characters in edit/text boxes: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2003JulSep/0399.html > > with regards > > Steven Faulkner > Web Accessibility Consultant > National Information & Library Service (NILS) > 454 Glenferrie Road > Kooyong Victoria 3144 > Phone: (613) 9864 9281 > Fax: (613) 9864 9210 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > National Information Library Service > A subsidiary of RBS.RVIB.VAF Ltd. > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > > > > ****************************************************** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ****************************************************** > > ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
