Hi,

If you HAVE to use tables you can still go some way in meeting
accessibility standards by compliance with guidelines:

5.3 Do not use tables for layout unless the table makes sense when
linearized.  [Priority 2]

5.4 If a table is used for layout, do not use any structural markup for
the purpose of visual formatting. [Priority 2]

(summarised from http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-table-markup )

-- 
Stuart Foulstone.
http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk
BigEasy Web Design
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On Sun, October 21, 2007 11:42 am, James Jeffery wrote:
> It does: http://www.matthew-boulton.ac.uk/
>
> The site looks o.k, but as you can see the methods are wrong.
>
> On 10/21/07, Stuart Foulstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You could possibly use how your college's own Website is coded to
>> support
>> your case.
>>
>> I don't know which college you're at, but look at how their Website is
>> coded  - I would be surprised if their still using the methods your
>> tutor
>> is teaching.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stuart Foulstone.
>> http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk
>> BigEasy Web Design
>> 69 Flockton Court
>> Rockingham Street
>> Sheffield
>> S1 4EB
>>
>> Tel. 07751 413451
>>
>> On Sat, October 20, 2007 10:18 am, James Jeffery wrote:
>> > Good Morning!
>> >
>> > Here is my problem. Im at college this year, preparing for University
>> > (Hopefully Birmingham) to
>> > study Software Engineering. At college we have a class on a Thursday
>> > called
>> > "Web Development"
>> > and the guy thats teaching the class in an absolute joke, no
>> seriously,
>> he
>> > is.
>> >
>> > He is teaching students how to create web pages using Dreamweaver in
>> > "Design" view, and then
>> > telling students if they can do this, they are Web Designers.
>> >
>> > I was angry, i instantly replied and questioned his knowledge on HTML
>> and
>> > asked the age old question:
>> > "What are tables in HTML used for?", he replied "To lay out web pages
>> and
>> > for tabled data", i replied with
>> > "wrong", he laughed and told me he knows what he is talking about.
>> >
>> > I seriously want to raise a huge issue at the college, but im not sure
>> how
>> > to do it. This guy is on 22k+
>> > a year, and cannot even teach people correctly, he may have been a pro
>> > back
>> > in the days when tables
>> > were acceptable to lay out web pages, but  in todays world he is a
>> fool.
>> >
>> > Its half term now, we have an assignment to complete using
>> Dreamweaver,
>> > and
>> > he said i have to use
>> > tables, its not a problem, i will do as the assignment requests. I
>> will
>> > walk
>> > the extra mile and create the
>> > same page without tables, with semantics, with accessibility in mind
>> and
>> > without the bloated mark-up,
>> > and then write a essay comparing the both.
>> >
>> > What power do i have (if any) to try and get the college to understand
>> > they
>> > cannot use a cowboy to
>> > teach tomorrows computer experts. Should i use my essay and examples
>> and
>> > take it to the head of
>> > the college? I really don't know how to go about this, but its
>> definatly
>> a
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > I really am angry and annoyed, you pay money to be taught the correct
>> > methods. People who don't
>> > understand are fine, they will believe him, and thats the shocking
>> part
>> > about it all.
>> >
>> > I await some advice.
>> >
>> >
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