Sorry, haven't been around for a few days. Thanks for the replies
everyone. Much appreciated and I can now talk about mobile development
with more confidence!

Cheers

2008/6/25 Darren Lovelock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Michael MD
> Sent: 25 June 2008 11:10
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [WSG] Mobile phone support of CSS
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>> I agree, this is not web standards. However remember they could be
>> following web standards with their CSS version.
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>> and I don't think it is just in the UK, it is every where for Vodafone.
>> Which not only defies any effort you made to put the thing together
>> for presentation standards as well.
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>> I think it is their solution to controlling the user experience on
>> handset side of things when someone accesses mobile web.
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>> Why don't they let the community sought it out?
>> It seems now that if standards are to be effective in the mobile
>> access space, there is now another hump to get an open standard.
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> are they doing this for all sites on all types of phones....
> or only changing it if the phone's browser can't handle the original
> format/doctype/css/etc
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> The latter is nothing new...
> Google has been doing it for years for pages linked from mobile search
> results allowing even ancient phones to browse pages they would not
> otherwise be able to look at.
> (ie making them accessible!)
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> I believe that they are changing all types of phones. I have a sony ericcson
> k800i and it modifies the pages on that unless I go in the vodafone account
> settings and switch it off. It works fine without it!
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> The Novarra proxy is over-riding the handheld stylesheet when I visit my
> website. This is because my site will deliver the standard stylesheet as it
> detects Novarra's user agent and not my mobile's. So it affects any site
> regardless if they are already mobile friendly!
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> Darren Lovelock
> Munky Online Web Design
> http://www.munkyonline.co.uk
> T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893
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