You really don't want to operate FT8 or such with AGC as big signals will swamp
smaller ones.I never use AGC but PowerSDR/Thetis remembers all that by band.
But for those rigs which don't remember gain-by-band we need a solution.
After thinking about this some more WSJT-X is not the place for the solution as
it's too late in the chain and would rely on polling to figure out what's
changed...too late.
So to maintain maximum flexibility I'm going to make a utility where you can
have a set of buttons that you can configure for mode/gain/frequency/AF level.
That way you can control the order of operations.Then, rather than clicking on
WJST-X and select the band, you click a single button which will do it all for
you.
Mike
On Monday, May 13, 2019, 1:39:59 PM CDT, Gary Hinson <[email protected]>
wrote:
Most rigs have AGC and some have top end limiters to avoid the audio ever
reaching deafening levels. [Is it possible to buy or make an external limiter?
A pair of back-to-back diodes might even suffice!]
Some rigs separate line out from audio out, with separate level controls for
each.
I frequently swap between FT8 and CW and have never been troubled by this
‘issue’ with my setup.
What I’m saying is that, for me, there are other more pressing priorities from
an operational/usability perspective.
73
Gary ZL2iFB
From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel <[email protected]>
Sent: 14 May 2019 02:45
To: WSJT software development <[email protected]>
Cc: Black Michael <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] AF Mute
And let me explain the operating paradigm here...I realize that very few people
operate like this.
Running WSJT-X, FLRig, Log4OM, and FLDigi all at the same time.
Your working WSJT-X and a spot comes in on CW in Log4OM -- so you click on it
and everything auto-switches over to CW on frequency for the spot and you now
want audio to listen to CW (which requires more audio than 30dB). Then when
you're done you click on the band selector in WSJT-X and the audio level is far
too high..plus you have all the boomers coming in now so it's even too loud at
30dB....and you really don't want to listen to it at all. So yes...you could
take your headset off...but do this a few dozen times and see if you don't
forget to take off your headset. It's loud enough to damage your ears. Some
rigs allow for separate USB audio/AF audio levels (like PowerSDR and the
IC-7300). So...for those rigs that can support it we simply put a checkbox for
AF level settings (only enabled when available) to mute audio. Some rigs
control the USB audio level from the AF control so those won't work.
Mike
On Monday, May 13, 2019, 9:04:29 AM CDT, Topher Petty <[email protected]> wrote:
If you can remember to click a button in WSJT-X, couldn't you also remember to
turn your AF on your rig down before starting WSJT-X?
I'm not trying to be contentious, here, but this sounds like trying to cure a
hardware issue in software (like Samsung does with their phones), when the
solution is to simply remember to turn the AF down... or remove your headphones.
73 de AI8W, Chris
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 PM Black Michael via wsjt-devel
<[email protected]> wrote:
User using headset listening to CW....switch to USB mode/FT8 and ears almost
get blown out.
Don't need any audio from the rig or a preset audio level for WSJT-X vs CW
might be better.
That's why.
Mike
On Sunday, May 12, 2019, 2:35:22 PM CDT, Gary McDuffie <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On May 12, 2019, at 10:05, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am referring to RIG_LEVEL_AF and though it may not be implemented on all
> would be a nice feature for those rigs that can which is quite a few.
I’m still at a loss to understand what you want to mute. X doesn’t produce
audio that the user should hear. The radio produces the only audio that you
should be hearing at any point of operation. If you are hearing it during
transmit, you more than likely have monitor turned on in the radio, which I
consider a good thing. If you hear it during receive, that’s also a good
thing. What are you hearing that you don’t want to hear?
Gary - AG0N
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