Great Idea Mike!
I would like to test your APP when ready,
Eric/wa1sxk

On 5/13/2019 3:13 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
You really don't want to operate FT8 or such with AGC as big signals will swamp smaller ones. I never use AGC but PowerSDR/Thetis remembers all that by band.  But for those rigs which don't remember gain-by-band we need a solution.

After thinking about this some more WSJT-X is not the place for the solution as it's too late in the chain and would rely on polling to figure out what's changed...too late.

So to maintain maximum flexibility I'm going to make a utility where you can have a set of buttons that you can configure for mode/gain/frequency/AF level.  That way you can control the order of operations. Then, rather than clicking on WJST-X and select the band, you click a single button which will do it all for you.

Mike


On Monday, May 13, 2019, 1:39:59 PM CDT, Gary Hinson <[email protected]> wrote:


Most rigs have AGC and some have top end limiters to avoid the audio ever reaching deafening levels. [Is it possible to buy or make an external limiter?  A pair of back-to-back diodes might even suffice!]

Some rigs separate line out from audio out, with separate level controls for each.

I frequently swap between FT8 and CW and have never been troubled by this ‘issue’ with my setup.

What I’m saying is that, for me, there are other more pressing priorities from an operational/usability perspective.

73

Gary ZL2iFB

*From:* Black Michael via wsjt-devel <[email protected]>
*Sent:* 14 May 2019 02:45
*To:* WSJT software development <[email protected]>
*Cc:* Black Michael <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] AF Mute

And let me explain the operating paradigm here...I realize that very few people operate like this.

Running WSJT-X, FLRig, Log4OM, and FLDigi all at the same time.

Your working WSJT-X and a spot comes in on CW in Log4OM -- so you click on it and everything auto-switches over to CW on frequency for the spot and you now want audio to listen to CW (which requires more audio than 30dB).  Then when you're done you click on the band selector in WSJT-X and the audio level is far too high..plus you have all the boomers coming in now so it's even too loud at 30dB....and you really don't want to listen to it at all. So yes...you could take your headset off...but do this a few dozen times and see if you don't forget to take off your headset.   It's loud enough to damage your ears.   Some rigs allow for separate USB audio/AF audio levels (like PowerSDR and the IC-7300).  So...for those rigs that can support it we simply put a checkbox for AF level settings (only enabled when available) to mute audio.  Some rigs control the USB audio level from the AF control so those won't work.

Mike

On Monday, May 13, 2019, 9:04:29 AM CDT, Topher Petty <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

If you can remember to click a button in WSJT-X, couldn't you also remember to turn your AF on your rig down before starting WSJT-X?

I'm not trying to be contentious, here, but this sounds like trying to cure a hardware issue in software (like Samsung does with their phones), when the solution is to simply remember to turn the AF down... or remove your headphones.

73 de AI8W, Chris

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 PM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    User using headset listening to CW....switch to USB mode/FT8 and
    ears almost get blown out.

    Don't need any audio from the rig or a preset audio level for
    WSJT-X vs CW might be better.

    That's why.

    Mike

    On Sunday, May 12, 2019, 2:35:22 PM CDT, Gary McDuffie
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    > On May 12, 2019, at 10:05, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >
    > I am referring to RIG_LEVEL_AF and though it may not be
    implemented on all would be a nice feature for those rigs that can
    which is quite a few.



    I’m still at a loss to understand what you want to mute.  X
    doesn’t produce audio that the user should hear. The radio
    produces the only audio that you should be hearing at any point of
    operation.  If you are hearing it during transmit, you more than
    likely have monitor turned on in the radio, which I consider a
    good thing. If you hear it during receive, that’s also a good
    thing. What are you hearing that you don’t want to hear?

    Gary - AG0N

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