Bill,

Thank you, I will test those values and report the results. I was never sure of 
the advantages of using Split->Rig -vs- Fake It, but I always thought that Rig 
was the correct way to go and Fake It was a workaround.

Jerry KI6RRD

From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 13:31
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TX start delay

Hi Jerry,

below is the content of an email exchange with Dave, AA6YQ, about these delays. 
Please note his suggestions for the Commander Command Interval settings for 
each of your rigs, the necessity for the "Verify CI-V command acceptance" 
option, and if that is still not fast enough then checking the WSJT-X option 
"Settings->Radio->Split Operating->Fake It" will definitely reduce the delay 
considerably.

+++++++++++++++

I would start the Pro III at 50 ms. If that works well, reduce it to 25 ms. I 
would not go below 25 ms.



The IC-7300 works reliably at 10 ms.



Be sure to enable "Verify CI-V command acceptance".



       Dave





-----Original Message-----

From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]

Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:14 PM

To: Dave AA6YQ

Subject: Re: TX Delay



Hi Dave,



in a previous message he reported the delays with both his IC-756-ProIII and 
IC-7300. He also reports no significant delays when using "Fake It"

split mode. Do you have a recommended Commander Command Interval for the 
IC-756ProIII? I will pass on your recommendations. Thanks for the prompt 
analysis and reply.



73

Bill

G4WJS.



On 19/06/2021 21:06, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

At the time that the CmdSendTx was received (2021-06-18 19:39:30.111), there 
were already two "Set Split" directives in the processing queue.



2021-06-18 19:39:30.216 > DDEServerModule.Dequeue: command = split, string1 = 
50,313.500, string 2 = Y



2021-06-18 19:39:32.919 > DDEServerModule.Dequeue: command = split, string1 = 
50,313.500, string 2 = Y



The errorlog does not capture any configuration information, so I can't 
determine the Icom model number or the command interval. From the errorlog 
entries, I'd guess that the Command Interval is set to 200 ms, but I can't 
suggest reducing it without knowing what model transceiver is being controlled.



With my IC-7800, I use a Command Interval of 25 ms; with my IC-7300, I use 10 
ms. Commander's "Verify CI-V command acceptance" option should be enabled.



Many Icom users (including me) configure WSJT-X to "fake it" to reduce the 
split delays.



        73,



             Dave, AA6YQ



-----Original Message-----

From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]

Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 3:22 PM

To: Dave AA6YQ

Subject: Fwd: TX Delay



Hi Dave,



Jerry is seeing lengthy delays when switching to transmit on his Icom with 
WSJT-X using Commander for rig control. Here is an extract from the Commander 
debug log where it takes over 5 seconds to respond to a



<command:9>CmdSendTx<parameters:0>



query sent directly after a



<command:5>CmdTX<parameters:0>

<snipped>
------------------------

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 18/06/2021 12:15, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Jerry,

thanks for the log file, it reveals that you are using DX Lab Suite Commander 
for rig control, it would have been handy to know that before, hi. The issue 
seems to be that Commander is taking between 2 and 4 seconds to reply to a PTT 
state query sent to it immediately after a prior command to set PTT. This is 
probably something Dave, AA6YQ, would need to comment on, but let's gather some 
relevant information first. Please repeat the same test to get a new 
WSJT-X_RigControl.log file, but this time also enable debug logging in 
Commander. To enable debug logging in Commander open the "Config->General" tab 
and check the "General->Log debugging info" option before starting the issue 
demonstration sequence in WSJT-X. Once the test is complete uncheck the 
Commander "Log debugging info" options and quit Commander. As before send me 
(g4wjs <at> classdesign <dot> com) the new WSJT-X_RigControl.log file, and also 
the file ErrorLog.txt from the C:\DXLab\Commander\ directory.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 17/06/2021 08:53, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Jerry,

you are the first to report such an unacceptably long delay with any Icom rig 
as far as I know. So I can see what is going on, configure WSJT-X such that the 
issue is demonstrated, put the attached file into your WSJT-X configuration 
files directory (on MS Windows that is the same as the log files directory - 
"Menu->File->Open log directory"), restart WSJT-X, carry out a *minimal* test 
that demonstrates the issue, then quit WSJT-X. It will have created a new file 
WSJT-X_RigControl.log on the Desktop, send that file to me (g4wjs <at> 
classdesign <dot> com) for analysis please?

Once you have sent the log file you can delete it from your Desktop, also 
delete the log configuration file to return to normal operation.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 16/06/2021 23:36, Jerry Shaw wrote:
FYI,

Not sure if this is related, however: I have always seen this delay 2-4 second 
with ICOM 756Pro3 and 7300 radios if I set Split to Rig, the problem does not 
exist if I set Split to Fake it.

Jerry KI6RRD


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