On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Sylvester Keil <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Rintze Zelle wrote:
> > Is that the entire set of ordinals that are redefined in the style?
> > You need to provide the full set, and I think that a default term
> > (without gender-form) for each needs to be set. The ordinals travel
> > only as a full set.
> >
> > Is that really necessary? The example I wrote up for the specification
> doesn't define a genderless "ordinal-01" term.
>
> I was wondering, too. Gracile explained that there is no genderless term
> in this case and Rintze suggested to generally fallback to the feminine
> version when looking up terms since that is the more common case in the
> languages we looked at.
>
> Note: I haven't worked out a general algorithm for gender lookups yet that
> considers all these fallbacks.
>
On the "fallback to the feminine version": I had an off-list discussion
with Sylvester in early August, where I mentioned that it might be handy to
use the feminine string for the neuter term, e.g.:
<term name="ordinal">.ª</term>
<term name="ordinal" gender-form="masculine">.º</term>
<term name="ordinal" gender-form="feminine">.ª</term>
My main concern was the transition towards completely translated CSL 1.0.1
locales, since initially we might not have gender assignments for all the
relevant noun terms (such as "edition"). Defining the neuter term as
feminine in the locale files would prevent regressions, as most
gender-sensitive CSL 1.0 locales settled on using feminine ordinals since
"edition" is usually feminine and "edition" seems to be the most popular
term to be rendered with ordinals. But this all only affects how locale
files are written, and doesn't change how the CSL processor should handle
fallback. (I'll follow up on that in a bit; time for my commute)
Rintze
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