I think most people don’t care about en-dash, and won’t see the difference, so
replacing any version of an en-dash with it makes sense, so they actually do
the right thing without ever knowing it was a problem in the first place. The
one who do care will want an en-dash and will be delighted to see you do the
right thing. The ones who are really crazy will have very weird ideas about
page ranges and dashes, and they should be ignored.
This is what we do in Papers: replace any occurence of any of these types of
dashes with en-dash:
/* hyphen */
@"\u2010"
/* nbr hyphen */ @"\u2011"
/* fig dash */ @"\u2012"
/* en-dash */ @"\u2013"
/* em-dash */ @"\u2014”
I like the idea of doing the same with multiple dashes, to get it down to just
one en-dash. I had not realized this could be used, but I think it makes sense.
Charles
On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Bruce D'Arcus <bdar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So the controversial question is whether that list includes em-dashes (and
> perhaps by extension triple dashes)?
>
> And therefore a modest change would add just add double-dashes?
>
> I'd suggest the modest one as general approach if unsure; always easier to
> add things like this than remove them.
>
> OTOH, I can't imagine why anyone would use an em-dash in a page range except
> to indicate the delimiter.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Sebastian Karcher
> <karc...@u.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> This is about which symbols the page-range-delimiter replaces and when. It
> already defaults to en-dash, that part isn't controversial.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Bruce D'Arcus <bdar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And in the TeX world, triple-dashes get replaced by em-dashes.
>
> I haven't followed this discussion, but looking back on it, I'm a little
> confused by what you seem to be proposing.
>
> Generally accepted "typographically correct" page range delimiter is an
> en-dash. If you want a rule, I'd say replace a dash or double-dash with an
> en-dash?
>
> Sorry if I'm missing something; been a long day.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Sebastian Karcher
> <karc...@u.northwestern.edu> wrote:
> I don't know about em-dashes. Repeated hyphens are common in bibtex, so they
> may make it into metadata.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Rintze Zelle <rintze.ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sebastian, Sylvester, does either of you (or anybody else) ever
> encounter item metadata that uses anything other than hyphens or
> en-dashes in page ranges? Do we really have to substitute repeated
> hyphens and em-dashes as well?
>
> Rintze
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Sylvester Keil <sylves...@keil.or.at> wrote:
> > Sounds good to me; I guess it would be sufficient to add one more
> > sentence after the one I quoted. To make it easier for implementors we
> > could also enumerate exactly which characters should be replaced (my
> > take would be: -, en-dash, em-dash, making sure to catch things like
> > '--', too).
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