El dimecres, 12 d’abril de 2017, a les 17:49:56 CEST, Daniel Stone va escriure: > Hi Albert, > > On 12 April 2017 at 09:05, Albert Astals Cid <[email protected]> wrote: > > El dimarts, 11 d’abril de 2017, a les 12:26:09 CEST, Daniel Stone va escriure: > >> Constructive feedback on the specific form and wording of the CoC is > >> more than welcome. What would be even better is if you're able to > >> point to the experiences of other communities, the discussions they've > >> had, and where they landed. The exact wording isn't irreversibly set > >> in stone, and I'm sure we'll want to be tweaking it over time. What is > >> set in stone is that we (the fd.o admins, who unanimously approved > >> this change) are committed to this CoC, and will not be turning back > >> from it. > > > > Can you clarify why do you think the sysadmins have the right to impose > > such a big change on the rest of the community without prior > > consultation? > freedesktop provides services to communities, including mailing lists, > bug trackers, Git hosting, web hosting, etc etc. We as the admins > already have to intervene to remove legally-impermissible content > (e.g. when someone uploaded third-party proprietary code they weren't > allowed to distribute, or when links to child pornography make it into > mailing list archives) from these services, because the responsibility > falls on fd.o as the provider rather than the more diffuse individual > communities. > > Our original plan was to offer the CoC (pre-made template text and a > point of contact) as an opt-in, where projects could contact us and > add it themselves. But, as with the above, behaviour of the individual > communities reflects on fd.o as a whole. We aren't a diffuse/random > hosting site like GitHub, but instead work with individually-selected > projects. With this comes responsibility on both sides: we cannot just > wash our hands of the behaviour of the member communities. > > We did discuss this with a number of people, but with over 100 quite > diffuse projects (some active, some stagnant, some abandoned, some > unclear), and running fd.o not being a paid activity (or even the > primary project we work on) for any of us, we weren't able to reach > everyone.
Why did you not use this list? The frontpage of freedesktop.org says "Contacting freedesktop: If you have any comments or questions about this site or its infrastructures, please send a message to the xdg list " So it seems that this would have been the obvious place to discuss the application of a Code of Conduct and making it easy for eveyone involved in freedesktop to learn about it from the source instead of from the news. Cheers, Albert _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
