Hello Elishai, First of all: thanks for participating in this discussion in a respectful and constructive way. Rather a relief after the insults of yesterday....
You're quite right in what you say. It's a community effort by volunteers and nobody owns it. Which is very good, among other things because it decreases the vulnerability of the project. But this immediately raises the question: how to prevent potential damage? In the end, the translation quality isn't served by simply letting everybody that wants to, loose on the translations. Some sort of quality control is essential, I think. Certainly after a translation has reached the 100 % mark. One can also see that in other open source projects. GitHub is even especially structured for that: anybody can make a *pull request* for code for a GitHub project, but not everybody can *commit* that code. Unfortunately, Transifex isn't as well equipped for dealing with the difference between "pull requests" and "commits" as, for instance, Launchpad is. That's why I invite people who want changes in existing Dutch Xfce translations, to *email* me their improvement propositions. Email doesn't have to be as clumsy an instrument as it may seem, by the way; you can also pull the .po file of the package you wish to alter from Transifex, edit it locally with Poedit and add the edited .po file as attachment to your email. I repeat: I welcome all improvement suggestions. I can assure everybody that I'll treat those with the respect and the open mind that they deserve. Regards, Pjotr. 2020-02-14 8:22 GMT+01:00, Elishai Shkury <[email protected]>: > Hello > Again, If I may add my two cents... > Your work is appreciated and your protective attitude towards your > translations is understandable. > But at the end of the day, we are volunteers translating Xfce, not owning > it. > Regards, > Elishai > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Pjotr Vertaalt wrote: >> Well, I must say that I find this message undeserved and even offensive. >> >> I've taken on the Dutch Xfce translations almost a decade ago, in 2011 >> to be exact. At that time, they were in a bad state: very incomplete >> and riddled with poor translations. >> >> On my own, I brought them up to 100 %, literally after months of hard >> work. Since then I've maintained them at 100 %. On several occasions, >> Dutch Xfce users have thanked me for taking care of what they saw as >> fine Dutch translations of Xfce. >> >> After nearly a decade of untiring dedication to the Dutch translations >> of Xfce, I don't think I deserve this kind of rude treatment from >> anybody. >> >> I'm open to constructive criticism concerning my translations; in fact >> I welcome it. But I also have to take care that existing translations >> don't become degraded. >> >> One of the shortcomings of Transifex is, that it's not as easy to >> propose new translations as in Launchpad. That's why I ask people to >> mail me their propositions. >> >> Regards, Pjotr. >> >> >> 2020-02-13 19:48 GMT+01:00, Benno Schulenberg <[email protected]>: >> > >> > Can someone please remove Pjotr from his position of power? >> > A position he misuses to obstruct improvements. >> > >> > Benno >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Xfce-i18n mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-i18n >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Xfce-i18n mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-i18n >> > _______________________________________________ > Xfce-i18n mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-i18n > _______________________________________________ Xfce-i18n mailing list [email protected] https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-i18n
