Some people are distinctly having this problem with 1.21, and others are distinctly not having this problem with 1.21? Sounds fishy to me - there must be some sort of common attribute of the systems that are having the problem... it is also suspect because it is intermittent, and so there is a big difference between a consistent problem with Hotmail/MSN and a different consistent problem with Hotmail AND Yahoo, so fine grained analysis seems to me the only solution. For example, what exactly is the common error. I have hundreds (or more) emails being sent to Yahoo and Hotmail every day without any difficulty running1.21 from a FreeBSD system with BIND. Are you absolutely certain that the problem you had with MSN/Hotmail on your Fedora system is the same problem that the others are seeing?
If there is a problem that is clearly identifiable I would think that very specific information would be necessary to track it down - what is the (exact) OS, is BIND being run by anyone that has seen this problem (and can identify it as the same problem exactly), and so on. This was basically what I put forward last time, but there was no real "hard data" to go on, so the thread just died. The only alternative I see is hard-core debugging on production systems, which wouldn't appeal to me very much. Jeff Joe Harrell wrote: >No, not "all", I had this problem with Hotmail/MSN and worked around it the >same way as the others by using another SMTP server. Actually ended up >sending out everything that way, rather than fight with those that won't go >on a case by case basis. > Running Linux (Fedora) and current version of Xmail. > > On 8/30/05, Jeff Buehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I remember this topic too. The only thing I thought strange at the >>time, and still do, is that many users of 1.21 are not affected by this >>problem at all (myself being an example), and so there must be something >>related in the systems of those who do have the problem. I am not >>saying any of these things are the cause (I have no idea) but I remember >>thinking that many (all?) were running Windows Systems and that many >>were coming from outside the U.S.. Perhaps the problem is with the >>Windows binary, or the way it interacts with Microsoft DNS? Maybe there >>is something else related? It seems to me it might be helpful if people >>with this problem published relevant system data so that we can see what >>the commonalities are to isolate the problem... just a thought. >> >>Jeff >> >>Edinilson J. Santos wrote: >> >> >> >>>I'm using the same solution that Francis described without problems. >>> >>>Try to search in the list about this topic. I'm the first that related it >>>few months ago. >>> >>>Edinilson >>>--------------------------------------------------------- >>>ATINET-Professional Web Hosting >>>Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 >>>http://www.atinet.com.br >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "CLEMENT Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:22 AM >>>Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get >>> >>> >>delivered >> >> >>> >>> >>>This problem was previously reported on this mailing list. >>>Seems (but not completly clarified/debugged at this time) 'xmail 1.21' >>> >>> >>have >> >> >>>some problems with some 'domains' zones setup (hotmail and yahoo in most >>>cases). >>>Seems xmail or dns server or tcp stack ? finaly choose the domain A >>> >>> >>record >> >> >>>and not the MX record for the domain in some cases ! even if a nslookup >>> >>> >>or >> >> >>>dig get the correct response ... >>> >>>I had the same problem, and configured xmail to allways use a smtp >>> >>> >>gateway >> >> >>>(a iis smtp server on another computer using the same dns server for >>> >>> >>final >> >> >>>delivery !!) to temporary resolve sending to these domains (especialy >>>hotmail ...) >>> >>>So, if you isp provide you a smtp gateway, tell xmail to deliver to it >>> >>> >>and >> >> >>>let the isp smtp server do the job. >>>Put this line in smtpfwd.tab (replace a.b.c.d with you isp smtp server) : >>> >>>"*" "a.b.c.d:25" >>> >>>As I said previously I have to get some tcp dumps to help understand the >>>problem when xmail resolves by itself on these domains but my xmail >>> >>> >>server >> >> >>>is in 'production' (for customers) and i can't test with it for this >>>delivery problem so I need to find time to run another server on another >>>'dummy' domain ... >>> >>>Francis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Message d'origine----- >>>>De : David Lord [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Envoyé : mardi 30 août 2005 12:33 >>>>À : [email protected] >>>>Objet : [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get >>>>delivered >>>> >>>> >>>>On 29 Aug 2005, at 3:33, jonn ah wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi all, >>>>> >>>>>we're using xmail's pop3 and smtp service but when we try to send >>>>>messages to either yahoo or hotmail, the messages does not >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>seem to get >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>delivered...Is there a default blacklist list that xmail >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>automatically >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>throws out messages to yahoo or hotmail to /dev/null? using tail -f >>>>>/var/log/messages gives me nothing...I can however, send to other >>>>>domains without any problems... >>>>> >>>>>any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Possibly they both have tighter requirements on sender >>>>authentication, RDNS, SPF etc. >>>> >>>>David >>>> >>>>- >>>>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>>>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>- >>>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>>- >>>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>- >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
