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Apartently you didn't catch the humor in my rely... :)
[Well, I thought it was funny anyway :)]
- --Brian
- -----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
Yours
Brian,
I might admonish you to lighten up as well. Don't you see or can't
you
perceive William's
sardonic humor. Don't take everything so seriously!
Rachel
|
|"He instead says
|everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of Java code for
|*FREE*.
|Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a perverse duel,
|goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their alpha-male position;
|except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one wins."
|(William J. Kammerer)
|
|Mr. William J. Krammerer--
|
|You have no idea what your talking about. And another
|thing--LIGTHIN UP! Ull that rod out from where you stuck it. You
|could learn
|something from myself and Paul, if you'd take the time to understand
|what we were commenting on. Pauls point is that the process of
|creating (in his case, from a database) and transmitting an XML
|document (or any data for that matter) is not a complicated task.
|AND YES, CS (that stands for "Computer Science," in case your
|confused) junkies such as myself always like to see if a problem can
|be solved in a simpler matter-- I guess you always prefer to go the
|hard way!
|
|- --Brian Curtis
|
|- -----Original Message-----
|From: Brian Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 1:52 PM
|To: 'William J. Kammerer'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|Subject: RE: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|Yours
|
|
|William,
|
| Being a newbie to XML (but not coding), I found the *free* demos
|quite
|enlightening and useful. I also see great value in being able to
|pull the
|raw data out of a robust database and build the XML documents on the
|fly. Of
|course this is coming from someone who enjoys reinventing wheels
|just for
|fun. I, unfortunately, find myself buying other folks wheels more
|and more
|on a professional level, due to information overload. I have yet to
|get the
|opportunity to apply any XML solutions on a business level, because
|all of
|our clients prefer quick, proven, and installed solutions. Now that
|I have a
|better grasp on XML I may actually be able to apply it to at least
|one of
|our customers.
|
|Brian Densmore
|Computech Business Solutions
|
|- -----Original Message-----
|From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:31 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|Yours
|
|
|Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some simple reasonable
|questions on how to move XML documents over the Internet,
|especially how addressability is handled.
|
|Addressability of business documents, whether X12, EDIFACT or
|RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical business identifier such
|as a
|DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location Number. One of a VAN's most important
|value-adds is to route documents based on these IDs to the intended
|recipient safely and securely. On the other hand, Internet EDI
|packages
|like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which are based on
|interoperable standards) require some sort of setup to equate the
|logical business ID with Internet addresses. Add in key
|maintenance,
|certificate exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance headaches add
|up quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate the services of
|a
|VAN.
|Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate relationship you need
|with
|the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to listen to his tirades
|against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and do that mumbo-jumbo
|with
|proxy servers and port addresses.
|
|IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that both Internet EDI
|using Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill. He instead
|says
|everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of Java code for
|*FREE*.
|Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a perverse duel,
|goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their alpha-male position;
|except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one wins.
|
|Of course, I have no interest in reading any code which has no
|comments.
|But from the little bit I saw of either IT Man's or Kurt's code, I
|don't
|understand what all the stuff about doing queries against a database
|has
|to do with the demo. Paul Williams asked about sending an *XML
|document* across the internet; is it really of any interest how that
|document is created? - it just confuses the issue.
|
|But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs (and I won't even
|question here why he's using XML). If he's not interested in the
|VAN or
|Internet EDI (i.e., those which use interoperable standards)
|solutions,
|then he might also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B XML server for
|secure, reliable information delivery over the Internet - XML
|Connect,"
|at http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/.
|
|William J. Kammerer
|FORESIGHT Corp.
|4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
|Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
|+1 614 791-1600
|
|Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
|"Commerce for a New World"
|
|
|
|
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