Or... Maybe not. In any case, I'm not going anywhere... You can't get rid of
me. So, lets move on people. This list is supposed to be productive... I
don't see production.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FW: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
Yours
Perhaps just ostracism would do the trick...in other words, ignore him. He�
ll soon tire of not creating a reaction.
os�tra�cize (�s�tr�-s�z�) tr.v. os�tra�cized, os�tra�ciz�ing, os�tra�ciz�es.
1. To exclude from a group. 2. To banish by ostracism, as in ancient Greece.
Rachel
Rachel Foerster
Principal
Rachel Foerster & Associates
Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
39432 North Avenue
Beach Park, IL 60099-3602
Voice: 847-872-8070
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|-----Original Message-----
|From: Chris Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 4:07 PM
|To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: FW: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|Yours
|
|
|Is there not a moderator who can remove this guy from the list?
|
|Chris Thompson
|Executive Vice President
|Recognition Research, Inc.
|1750 Kraft Dr. Suite 2000
|Blacksburg, VA 24060
|540.961.6500
|540.961.3568/fax
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|www.rrinc.com
|B382000331
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|-----Original Message-----
|From: Brian Curtis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:14 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: XML/EDI Group
|Subject: RE: FW: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's
|Smaller than Yours
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|Maybe you should ask why an individual for the listserv sent me the
|email? Guess you didn't think about that.
|
|- -----Original Message-----
|From: Betty L. Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:57 PM
|To: Brian Curtis
|Cc: XML/EDI Group
|Subject: Re: FW: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|Yours
|
|
|
|Brian:
|
| In a previous message you stated that you had a lot to
|offer this
|group, which I don't doubt. However, your unprofessional behavior
|negates
|whatever knowledge you may bestow upon the group. Individuals sending
|you
|insulting and profane e-mails is also not professional.
|
| However, polluting the e-mails of thousands of individuals
|is rude and as I stated before, unprofessional. I, for one, consider
|my time valuable and I feel assaulted by getting this type of
|profanity in my e-mail.
|
| In future - think before forwarding garbage to a 'professional'
|listserve.
|
|Betty
|
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|Betty Harvey | Phone: 410-787-9200 FAX: 9830
|Electronic Commerce Connection, Inc. |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Washington,DC SGML/XML Users
|Grp
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|On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Brian Curtis wrote:
|
|>
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:19 AM
|> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> Subject: Re: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|> Yours
|>
|>
|>
|> The word 'cock' springs to mind
|>
|> I am, I am I fuckin well am
|>
|>
|>
|> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> om To:
|> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> cc: (bcc: Glenn
|> Chegwidden/MIS/KTCIE)
|> 28/07/00 Subject: Re: A FEW
|> VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|> 08:22 Yours
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|> Dear William,
|>
|> Given your stature among the members of this list and
|> your legendary humor, I shouldn't even dare to deny
|> your insight in the minds of Kurt Svensson's and me.
|> But the fact is that I am the Technical Manager of a
|> GEIS VAN and I don't think that "Internet EDI using
|> Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill",
|> otherwise I won't be on this list.
|> I was only trying to give a SIMPLE and CLEAR answer
|> both theoretically and practically using a popular
|> Internet Age language.
|>
|> Regards,
|> Paul Aoun
|> --- "William J. Kammerer"
|> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> > Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some
|> > simple reasonable
|> > questions on how to move XML documents over the
|> > Internet, especially
|> > how addressability is handled.
|> >
|> > Addressability of business documents, whether X12,
|> > EDIFACT or
|> > RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical business
|> > identifier such as a
|> > DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location Number. One of a
|> > VAN's most important
|> > value-adds is to route documents based on these IDs
|> > to the intended
|> > recipient safely and securely. On the other hand,
|> > Internet EDI packages
|> > like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which
|> > are based on
|> > interoperable standards) require some sort of setup
|> > to equate the
|> > logical business ID with Internet addresses. Add
|> > in key maintenance,
|> > certificate exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance
|> > headaches add up
|> > quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate
|> > the services of a VAN.
|> > Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate
|> > relationship you need with
|> > the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to
|> > listen to his tirades
|> > against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and do
|> > that mumbo-jumbo with
|> > proxy servers and port addresses.
|> >
|> > IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that both
|> > Internet EDI using
|> > Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill. He
|> > instead says
|> > everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of
|> > Java code for *FREE*.
|> > Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a
|> > perverse duel,
|> > goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their
|> > alpha-male position;
|> > except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one
|> > wins.
|> >
|> > Of course, I have no interest in reading any code
|> > which has no comments.
|> > But from the little bit I saw of either IT Man's or
|> > Kurt's code, I don't
|> > understand what all the stuff about doing queries
|> > against a database has
|> > to do with the demo. Paul Williams asked about
|> > sending an *XML
|> > document* across the internet; is it really of any
|> > interest how that
|> > document is created? - it just confuses the issue.
|> >
|> > But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs (and
|> > I won't even
|> > question here why he's using XML). If he's not
|> > interested in the VAN or
|> > Internet EDI (i.e., those which use interoperable
|> > standards) solutions,
|> > then he might also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B
|> > XML server for
|> > secure, reliable information delivery over the
|> > Internet - XML Connect,"
|> > at http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/.
|> >
|> > William J. Kammerer
|> > FORESIGHT Corp.
|> > 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
|> > Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
|> > +1 614 791-1600
|> >
|> > Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at
|> > http://www.foresightcorp.com/
|> > "Commerce for a New World"
|> >
|> >
|> >
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