Brian,
Nope...it totally flew over my head!
Rachel
|
|Apartently you didn't catch the humor in my rely... :)
|
|[Well, I thought it was funny anyway :)]
|
|- --Brian
|
|
|
|- -----Original Message-----
|From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:34 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
|Yours
|
|
|Brian,
|
|I might admonish you to lighten up as well. Don't you see or can't
|you
|perceive William's
|sardonic humor. Don't take everything so seriously!
|
|Rachel
|
||
||"He instead says
||everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of Java code for
||*FREE*.
||Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a perverse duel,
||goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their alpha-male position;
||except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one wins."
||(William J. Kammerer)
||
||Mr. William J. Krammerer--
||
||You have no idea what your talking about. And another
||thing--LIGTHIN UP! Ull that rod out from where you stuck it. You
||could learn
||something from myself and Paul, if you'd take the time to understand
||what we were commenting on. Pauls point is that the process of
||creating (in his case, from a database) and transmitting an XML
||document (or any data for that matter) is not a complicated task.
||AND YES, CS (that stands for "Computer Science," in case your
||confused) junkies such as myself always like to see if a problem can
||be solved in a simpler matter-- I guess you always prefer to go the
||hard way!
||
||- --Brian Curtis
||
||- -----Original Message-----
||From: Brian Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
||Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 1:52 PM
||To: 'William J. Kammerer'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
||Subject: RE: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
||Yours
||
||
||William,
||
|| Being a newbie to XML (but not coding), I found the *free* demos
||quite
||enlightening and useful. I also see great value in being able to
||pull the
||raw data out of a robust database and build the XML documents on the
||fly. Of
||course this is coming from someone who enjoys reinventing wheels
||just for
||fun. I, unfortunately, find myself buying other folks wheels more
||and more
||on a professional level, due to information overload. I have yet to
||get the
||opportunity to apply any XML solutions on a business level, because
||all of
||our clients prefer quick, proven, and installed solutions. Now that
||I have a
||better grasp on XML I may actually be able to apply it to at least
||one of
||our customers.
||
||Brian Densmore
||Computech Business Solutions
||
||- -----Original Message-----
||From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
||Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:31 PM
||To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||Subject: Re: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than
||Yours
||
||
||Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some simple reasonable
||questions on how to move XML documents over the Internet,
||especially how addressability is handled.
||
||Addressability of business documents, whether X12, EDIFACT or
||RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical business identifier such
||as a
||DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location Number. One of a VAN's most important
||value-adds is to route documents based on these IDs to the intended
||recipient safely and securely. On the other hand, Internet EDI
||packages
||like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which are based on
||interoperable standards) require some sort of setup to equate the
||logical business ID with Internet addresses. Add in key
||maintenance,
||certificate exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance headaches add
||up quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate the services of
||a
||VAN.
||Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate relationship you need
||with
||the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to listen to his tirades
||against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and do that mumbo-jumbo
||with
||proxy servers and port addresses.
||
||IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that both Internet EDI
||using Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill. He instead
||says
||everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of Java code for
||*FREE*.
||Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a perverse duel,
||goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their alpha-male position;
||except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one wins.
||
||Of course, I have no interest in reading any code which has no
||comments.
||But from the little bit I saw of either IT Man's or Kurt's code, I
||don't
||understand what all the stuff about doing queries against a database
||has
||to do with the demo. Paul Williams asked about sending an *XML
||document* across the internet; is it really of any interest how that
||document is created? - it just confuses the issue.
||
||But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs (and I won't even
||question here why he's using XML). If he's not interested in the
||VAN or
||Internet EDI (i.e., those which use interoperable standards)
||solutions,
||then he might also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B XML server for
||secure, reliable information delivery over the Internet - XML
||Connect,"
||at http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/.
||
||William J. Kammerer
||FORESIGHT Corp.
||4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
||Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
||+1 614 791-1600
||
||Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
||"Commerce for a New World"
||
||
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