Knock it off guys! This kind of �pissing up a rope� doesn�t advance the
discussion or add new insights or knowledge. For heaven�s sake, lighten up
and look for the underlying humor in many of these messages.
Rachel
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|
|Dear William,
|
|Given your stature among the members of this list and
|your legendary humor, I shouldn't even dare to deny
|your insight in the minds of Kurt Svensson's and me.
|But the fact is that I am the Technical Manager of a
|GEIS VAN and I don't think that "Internet EDI using
|Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill",
|otherwise I won't be on this list.
|I was only trying to give a SIMPLE and CLEAR answer
|both theoretically and practically using a popular
|Internet Age language.
|
|Regards,
|Paul Aoun
|--- "William J. Kammerer"
|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some
|> simple reasonable
|> questions on how to move XML documents over the
|> Internet, especially
|> how addressability is handled.
|>
|> Addressability of business documents, whether X12,
|> EDIFACT or
|> RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical business
|> identifier such as a
|> DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location Number. One of a
|> VAN's most important
|> value-adds is to route documents based on these IDs
|> to the intended
|> recipient safely and securely. On the other hand,
|> Internet EDI packages
|> like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which
|> are based on
|> interoperable standards) require some sort of setup
|> to equate the
|> logical business ID with Internet addresses. Add
|> in key maintenance,
|> certificate exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance
|> headaches add up
|> quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate
|> the services of a VAN.
|> Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate
|> relationship you need with
|> the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to
|> listen to his tirades
|> against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and do
|> that mumbo-jumbo with
|> proxy servers and port addresses.
|>
|> IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that both
|> Internet EDI using
|> Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill. He
|> instead says
|> everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of
|> Java code for *FREE*.
|> Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a
|> perverse duel,
|> goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their
|> alpha-male position;
|> except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one
|> wins.
|>
|> Of course, I have no interest in reading any code
|> which has no comments.
|> But from the little bit I saw of either IT Man's or
|> Kurt's code, I don't
|> understand what all the stuff about doing queries
|> against a database has
|> to do with the demo. Paul Williams asked about
|> sending an *XML
|> document* across the internet; is it really of any
|> interest how that
|> document is created? - it just confuses the issue.
|>
|> But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs (and
|> I won't even
|> question here why he's using XML). If he's not
|> interested in the VAN or
|> Internet EDI (i.e., those which use interoperable
|> standards) solutions,
|> then he might also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B
|> XML server for
|> secure, reliable information delivery over the
|> Internet - XML Connect,"
|> at http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/.
|>
|> William J. Kammerer
|> FORESIGHT Corp.
|> 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
|> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
|> +1 614 791-1600
|>
|> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at
|> http://www.foresightcorp.com/
|> "Commerce for a New World"
|>
|>
|>
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