Glen,

You may want to look at how the Energy industry moved from VAN's to the
Internet for their EDI and XML
data transport needs. In 1996, the Federal government mandated that all
Interstate Gas Pipelines MUST use the
Internet for E-Commerce, in order to reduce costs. Now 100% of the
Interstate Gas Pipelines use the
Internet to transport their EDI data.

In 1999 the Electric industry began moving from VAN's to the Internet to
transport business transactions. Pennsylvania
was the first state to use the Internet, now NY and Texas have adopted the
Internet, using the same B2B
standard used by the Gas industry (GISB EDM ref: http://www.gisb.org/). The
Gas Industry B2B standard uses
PGP to encrypt and digitally sign EDI documents, which are transported using
HTTP POST (like ebXML and
EDIINT AS2).

Enron, one of the largest energy companies in the US, has done over $183
BILLION in E-Commerce over the
Internet. Enron was the first company to use the GISB EDM B2B standard to
exchange EDI data over the Internet in
April, 1997, ref:
http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO54149,00.html

I suggest you take a look at how the Energy industry successfully
transitioned from VAN's to the Internet.


Dick Brooks
Group 8760
110 12th Street North
Birmingham, AL 35203
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen T. Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:33 PM
> To: 'Eck, Jeffery (GXS)'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Data Transport Question
>
>
> Thank you very much for everyone that has responded to my question.
>
> I have requested as much information from my trading partner as they can
> give me on there XML,
> This could take a few days, So I thought I would ask a few more questions.
>
> (These are not direct questions just thoughts out load to see if any one
> else has had these same questions)
>
> This is my current situation:
>
> We are doing EDI transaction using the X12(3040) format.
> We have a VAN that we use, I was told that this was for dispute resolution
> and
> accountability. The VAN that we use charges us a per kilo-byte charge. if
> our trading partner
> wishes to continue using the VAN this will greatly increase the cost for
> each transaction.
>
>
> If the trading partners don't wish to use the VAN I wonder why we
> are paying
> for this service now.
>
> It also makes me think that if we drop the VAN and use a direct
> transaction,
> We could do this now
> with the EDI format. What would be the advantage to using XML ,besides
> making it slightly more
> human readable? Is there some advantage or dis-advantage that I'm missing?
> Or is this just an
> effort to replace the current X12/EDIFACT Standard?
>
> As I said before these are not really direct questions just
> wondering if any
> one has and thoughts on this.
> Or has any one else had these questions when you started with XML/EDI?
>
>
> Thank you very much for your time.
>
> Glen T. Dudley
> Programmer/Analyst
> MBIA
> Matsushita Battery Industrial Corporation of America
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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