Shuhao> One thing about reliability: Shuhao> I've not had xournal crash on me a lot. I think there may be once. Shuhao> However, the lack of a recovery feature is concerning. If there is Shuhao> recovery, crashes are less problematic.
There used to be a feature that did this in sourceforge, but i found it buggier than the problem it was trying to solve. One of the reasons this is almost never a problem for me is that I save almost any time I lift my hand from the canvas. -dmg Shuhao> Cheers, Shuhao> Shuhao Shuhao> On 11/18/2013 09:52 AM, Wilson Brenna wrote: >> I'll add that I didn't mention reliability and that I completely agree - >> I've never had a crash with Denis' Xournal, it's extremely stable. The >> current state of Xournalpp is that crashes are less and less common but >> still occur. When I started looking at the code, there were a few bugs in >> copy/paste and undo that caused frequent crashing, but that has since been >> fixed. I still get crashes from time to time, which I've noted in the >> Issues section on the Github page. So, I second the statement about xournal >> having a warranty of reliability. >> >> I also think Shuhao makes a good point about user confusion. Certainly when >> I selected a project to use and to work on, I had a tough time seeing the >> best path. So this is probably a good time to talk about where to go from >> now! I think that with the original idea of Xournalpp being the future of >> Xournal, the name was appropriate, but now that it's not entirely clear >> what is happening, it's unfortunate but that's kind of the way it is. After >> this discussion I'll definitely add some historical notes on the Github >> page for Xournalpp so that the state of the projects is more clear. >> >> Since I mostly see new developments appearing on Github, my personal >> recommendation would be to move Xournal development to Github and to use >> Daniel's recommendations for official project branches (stable, >> experimental, feature patches). That would at least consolidate development >> on that project. As far as Xournalpp I think the projects should remain >> separate but I'm open to suggestions. As for what I'll do, my plan was to >> modify Xournalpp to have the features I wanted, and that's been mostly >> accomplished now, so my in the next few months I plan to push out some >> *.deb binaries and focus on polishing things up to the point where it's >> easy for anyone to try it out. >> >> One thing I'd really like to hear is Daniel's opinion on GTK3 and Windows >> porting of Xournalpp. I'd certainly trust your expertise and if you say it >> can be done, it's something I'd like to look at as well. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Shuhao Wu <shu...@shuhaowu.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So yeah that's what I figured as well. It seems like everyone has their >>>> own fork. >>>> >>>> While that seems to be beauty of opensource, this is just confusing and >>>> bad for the end users. >>>> >>>> There are a lot of improvements that could be made to xournal, a lot of >>>> which are already implemented. We should really get the authors to just >>>> merge everything into a mainline repository. This will allow all users >>>> to benefit. Developers who are interested will also have less of a hard >>>> time trying to figure out what to contribute to. >>>> >>>> I would love to contribute some stuff into xournal[1], but with this >>>> state I'm not sure which one is an non-outdated version, especially >>>> since I see a lot of great features (esp the capstone student projects) >>>> in forks. >>>> >>>> [1]: such as drawing horizontally and vertically aligned lines, drawing >>>> rectangles and other shapes without recognition, and having lines draw >>>> with the width determined by the pen pressure. >>>> >>>> As for xournal++... if it is a total rewrite I don't think it is >>>> appropriate to use almost the same name. That just seems confusing (as >>>> it did for me). >>>> >>>> Just my two cent. >>>> >>>> Shuhao >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> DreamFactory - Open Source REST & JSON Services for HTML5 & Native Apps >> OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access >> Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server. >> Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xournal-devel mailing list >> Xournal-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xournal-devel >> Shuhao> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shuhao> Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Shuhao> Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. 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